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Post by Planetbox on Apr 6, 2018 16:52:59 GMT -5
Rude Press the penultimate or last statements, see what he's got to say. Also I never accused you Sammy it was all these guys!Tell off Sammy for swearing so loudly, and then press the first two statements. Was he the one in the hospital scrubs and all? Press him about the "Foul Play" comment. Also try and correlate his story with Argenta, Aura and Dustin. Surely if he'd been thieving around the hospital for five years they must have noticed something off like missing keys or whatnot before now. Press: Statement 2Vesti asks, “So were you the one we saw on camera walking around in hospital scrubs?” Sammy gives Vesti a confused glance and replies, “No... I’m not sure what you’re talking about...” “Well, we saw a suspicious person prowling about wearing hospital scrubs,” Vesti explains, “so I just thought that might have been you sneaking around the hospital.” “No, that wasn’t me,” Sammy explains, “I had a good idea of where the cameras were, so I just tried to keep my face out of them. The closest thing I had to a disguise was one of those masks from the front desk.” He makes a motion like he’s about to pull said mask out of his pocket, only to have his efforts hindered by the handcuffs. He sighs in annoyance. “Really, though, it makes sense that it wasn’t him!” Argenta Gold exclaims, “Most of us keep our scrubs in our office, so he would have had to break in somewhere just to get a disguise to break in somewhere else! It would have been easier to just get a more reliable disguise!” “That’s true...” Vesti mumbles, “I guess we’ll have to find the solution to that mystery later...” Press: Statement 5Vesti asks, “What do you mean, there was ‘foul play’ involved?” “I mean that Cammy didn’t commit suicide...” Sammy explains grimly. “I think it’s more likely that someone tried to kill her and then set it up to look like a suicide.” “Isn’t that the theory you were pushing for a little while ago?” Percy asks, “Are you saying you’ve changed your mind?” “Of course not!” Vesti shouts, “I was just wondering if Sammy had any proof for that statement that we missed!” “Nope, I’m afraid I don’t,” Sammy answers, “I knew she wouldn’t have tried to kill herself simply because I’d seen her respond to more stressful situations without even contemplating anything like that... but obviously, that wouldn’t hold up in court. That’s why I did what I did...” Press: Statement 6“So you say you’ve been snooping around the hospital for five years...” Vesti turns to Argenta and Dustin and asks, “Can either of you think of anything that could corroborate this?” Dustin replies, “Uhh... Well, other than my key ring disappearing, no, I can’t really think of anything...” “Honestly, that doesn’t surprise me,” Sammy says, “That key ring was the first time I ever took anything. Usually when I searched rooms, I tried to leave everything as it was. I didn’t bother with those offices because getting caught would have been much more dangerous. Other than that, I usually just talked to people, which obviously wouldn’t have looked that suspicious to anyone passing by...” “I can think of something though,” Argenta exclaims, “I always noticed that when Sammy was visiting his wife, he’d leave at really random times, sometimes oddly quickly. And I think once about a year ago he left Cammy’s room really early, but then I saw him finally leave through the front door like an hour later...” Sammy nods and replies, “Yeah, on days that I went searching, I would always have to leave Cammy’s room early, so I could still get to work on time. That’s why I seemed to have such a weird schedule.” “Well, I suppose that all more or less lines up... Moving on...” Press: Statement 7“...Did you just say you had been ‘taking notes?’” Vesti asks. “Well, yeah...” Sammy replies, “I had to have some way to record the info I found... Why?” “Hmm...” After thinking for a few seconds, Vesti says, “And what kinda stuff is in these notes?” Sammy explains, “It’s mostly testimonies from people about the night of Cammy’s incident... You know, stuff they saw at the time.” “Ah, interesting...” Vesti mumbles. Vesti says, “Sammy, your story makes a lot of sense to me. Not only does it explain all your suspicious behavior, but it also just seems more reasonable than you being the killer. After all, you couldn’t have known that Cammy had woken up, and even if you did, you had no reason to kill her considering you weren’t even in the building when the blackout occurred.” “Good...” Sammy replies, “I’m glad someone here has some sense.” “Wait,” Lita shouts, “Does that mean we’re back to square one?” “Perhaps not,” Vesti explains, “Sammy, even if I’m not arresting you for murder, you’re still probably gonna go away for a while on charges of breaking and entering, trespassing, and maybe even obstruction of justice... However, if you help the investigation now, perhaps you’ll be able to get a lessened sentence.” “‘Help the investigation?’” Sammy asks, “How, exactly?” “It’s simple,” Vesti says, holding out his hand. “Hand over your notes. We might be able to use them to figure out what happened five years ago...” “I would, but...” Sammy says, “I’ve had these for five years, and I haven’t been able to figure anything out from them in all that time...” “It’s possible that you may have simply missed something that we found in our legal investigation,” Vesti replies, “Either way, you don’t have anything to lose by handing it over.” “Fine...” Sammy says, “I can’t give it to you on account of being handcuffed, but the notepad’s in my left pocket. Just take it.” Vesti retrieves the notes, which are written on the first few sheets of a black spiral notepad, and flips to the page that seems the most relevant: a collection of testimonies regarding the day of the murder. Before he can get to reading them, Percy interjects, “Hold on, are we sure that we can trust these notes? They were written by a prime suspect.” “Everything here cites the person who gave the info,” Vesti responds, “We could always verify the statements with them.” “Besides,” Lauren adds, “If he had faked the notes and intended to deceive us with them, he wouldn’t have withheld them for so long, and he wouldn’t have faked evidence that directly implicated him in several lesser crimes.” With all that settled, Vesti carefully reads over the notes. {{Sammy’s Notes added to Evidence}} Ray Seppsun, Receptionist: Didn’t see anyone suspicious come in. This was probably an inside job, as I imagine anyone would have noticed their patient sneaking off. Aura Gold, Director: Insists that she sent Cammy to the breaker room. Got annoyed when I pressed her. I should probably avoid getting spotted by her again. Dustin Panne, Doctor: Saw the power go out and hurried to the fuse room to use his electrician experience to help. He met Aura and Argenta Gold on the stairwell and told them where the power had gone out, then continued to the top-floor. The fuse had been faulty and blew itself out when the switch flipped, so he fixed it as quickly as possible. Adrodo Conrodo III, Patient: Saw Cammy carried through the hallway on a stretcher. The doctor presiding over Adrodo’s surgery (identity unknown) was upset, because she had apparently been planning to marathon Nitrogen Ninja with Cammy that afternoon (I remember Cammy mentioning this. I think I wasn’t invited because they were bringing wine or something). Anyway, this could be proof that foul play was involved. Janine “Dusty” Torr, Janitor: Was mopping the fifth floor when the incident occured. She saw a woman with long, black hair enter the fusebox room (probably Cammy). She never saw them leave, as she slipped on her mopwater and was knocked unconscious for a while. Janet “Rusty” Torr, Janitor (no relation to Janine): Accompanied the party that took in Cammy. The body was never left alone before reaching the hospital room. The next day, she was called to fix the gutter, which had apparently gotten broken at some point. Would have taken a lot of pressure to break that thing. Might be proof that she was pushed out? A grim look crosses Vesti’s face. “...I think I know who caused the blackout” “What? Already?” Sammy shouts, “I’ve been struggling with all that for years, and you worked it out in a few seconds?” “I was right,” Vesti explains, “You missed a single piece of evidence that completes this puzzle. Allow me to explain...” Who caused the blackout? What evidence did Sammy miss?PRESENT a profile AND evidence. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Apr 6, 2018 17:47:45 GMT -5
>Adrodo Conrodo eyyyyyyy i kno dat guy
i dont kno who did the blackout, do imma gues cammy and da ringa keyyyyyyz
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Post by Planetbox on Apr 14, 2018 18:23:38 GMT -5
Sorry, SC, no can do. Aura isn’t even in the room right now. sorry 4 late ARGENTA!!!!!! And the photo with her hair black. Well I mean...he's not wrong...but I'm still betting this somehow goes back to Aura. Oh, same. To me this confirms it. My Theory Argenta caused the blackout that killed lots of people. Aura wanted to protect her and her career, so she pinned the blame on Cammy, and then silenced her. Aw man that's not cool. I'm not a huge fan of "break the cutie" stories and that would be horrific for Argenta. Darn, so it wasn't Ray. Or the Torres. Pretty disappointing. Before you do present it though, give a look at Aura and say: "I guess you aren't as golden as you made us think you were." Present: Argenta Gold and Gold PhotoVesti says, “The first janitor mentioned here: a Janine Torr. Her testimony is the most important one here.” Lauren mumbles, “She was the one who saw a woman with black hair enter the fusebox room...” “Cammy had long black hair...” Dustin says, “Does that mean she did it after all?” “No... There was another possibility...” Vesti says, “And I have evidence that proves it.” “Do you?” Percy asks, “Well, let’s see it then.” After a short, awkward silence, Vesti sighs and reaches into his pocket, pulling out the photo he picked up from Argenta Gold’s office. He holds it in front of him, looking at Argenta with her hair out long and died black. After a few more seconds of silence, Lita says, “Hey, Vesti, don’t leave us in suspense! ...You feelin’ alright?” “Yeah, I’ll be fine...” Vesti hands the photo to Percy, who looks at it skeptically. “...I hardly see how this is relevant...” “This photo was taken shortly after the blackout.” Vesti explains, “As you can tell, there was someone else who could have been spotted going into that fusebox room... Obviously, she looks completely different now, but back then she looked very similar to Cammy Tose from behind... It was Argenta Gold.” “H- Huh?” Argenta shouts, “V- Vesti? What do you think you’re doing?” “...My job.” Vesti mumbles grimly. Looking at the photo, Lauren says, “...While they do resemble each other... I’d hardly say this proves anything. There were probably plenty of people with long black hair at the hospital that day.” “Oh, believe me, I wouldn’t make an accusation such as this so lightly...” Vesti explains, “You see, there’s another testimony that supports it... Specifically, that of Dustin Panne.” “Me?” Dustin asks. “What did I see again? I don’t really remember... It doesn’t really seem like it was anything important...” “Let me remind you,” Vesti glances at Sammy’s notepad and explains, “You ran into Argenta Gold and her sister on the stairwell. That means they were probably heading down from the top floor, where the fusebox was.” Argenta shouts, “Th- That doesn’t mean anything! You can’t accuse someone because they walked down a flight of stairs!” “Well, normally you couldn’t...” Vesti says, “But when they previously claimed to have not gone down that flight of stairs, things get a little more complicated!” “Wait,” Lita shouts, “Are you saying she LIED?!” Vesti answers, “I am. When I asked Argenta about her whereabouts five years ago, she claimed that she was in the affected ward when the power went out and spent her whole time there... So, why would she fail to mention that she had actually come down from the top floor? Unless... she was hiding something...” “Such as the blackout she supposedly caused...” Percy mumbles. “Wait, Vesti!” Lita says, “Are you sure about this? I mean, that’s suspicious, sure, but it’s hardly conclusive! There’s no way any of that would hold up in court! Besides, it’s been five years! She might have just forgotten!” Percy replies, “With how traumatic that whole incident apparently was, I doubt she’d just conveniently forget.” “She didn’t even have a motive!” Lita replies, “Why would a doctor intentionally endanger the lives of so many patients?!” “Well... It may not have been intentional...” Dustin adds, “Without the fail-safe, that fusebox was a lot more dangerous back then...” Before anyone can respond to Dustin’s theory, Argenta suddenly shouts, “E- Everybody shut up!” Everyone turns to Argenta, surprised at her outburst. Despite the fact that she’s clearly trembling, the doctor is glaring at everyone in the room, her expression a mix of anger and resolve. Eventually, Percy snaps, “What? Are you going to try to protect yourself once again?” Argenta takes in a shaky breath and then lets out a sigh. She mumbles, “No... as a matter of fact, I’m not... I’m sick of all that. I’m sick of people talking about me while I’m in the room, throwing out assumptions, treating me like I’m some kind of criminal... I- I’m sick of coming up with a bunch of lies because I can’t face the truth of what happened that day. So I’m done. I admit it. ...I caused that blackout.” Sammy Tose, still in handcuffs, shouts, “So, you’re the one who caused those deaths? And you kept on working here like it never even happened, letting my wife take all the blame? How can you even live with yourself?” “...With difficulty,” Argenta replies, “Mr. Panne was right. I didn’t mean to flip that switch... M- My finger slipped. I know it’s an awful excuse, but it’s what happened. ...I still remember the feeling of horror and dread I got when it happened. In fact, I don’t think that feeling will ever leave me...” Argenta looks back up at Sammy and adds, “So, yeah, maybe I shouldn’t still be at this hospital... but it’s the only thing I can do to at least try to make up for those four patients... so it’s what I’m going to do.” Lauren asks, “So... you had absolutely no ill will towards any of the patients?” “Of course not,” Argenta says, “Being a doctor means doing whatever you can to protect people... even complete strangers... That’s what my father always said. Even if I had known one of those patients, it wouldn’t have mattered. When someone’s in that hospital bed, grudges or personal feelings about them are forgotten. Their condition and their recovery... that’s all that matters...” Argenta sighs once again and adds, “I was supposed to protect those patients... b- but I failed them. Not a day goes by in which I don’t think of that...” She trails off, and it seems that she has nothing more to say. Eventually, Vesti says, “Uhh... Th- Thank you, Argenta. It was very brave of you to say all that...” Argenta just looks at the floor, not responding. Before the mood in the room even gets a chance to improve, Percy remarks, “Hmm... So, you’d do ‘anything’ to make up for your mistakes, yes? Perhaps... even murder?” Argenta doesn’t even respond this time. She stares at the prosecutor, speechless. Vesti shouts, “N- No! Don’t even think about it!” “Oh? And why shouldn’t I?” Percy asks, “Wasn’t it you who said that Cammy’s killer and the one who caused the blackout were the same person?” Vesti stammers, “W- Well... yes, but-” “There are no buts,” Percy snaps, “You said it yourself. The one that caused the blackout would have plenty of motivation to cover it up, especially if it meant saving their career. After all, how’s a doctor supposed to save any patients if she’s in jail?” “Wha- What?” Argenta finally responds, “You can’t ruin more peoples’ lives to make up for the ones you’ve already ruined! That’s not how it works!” Ignoring her, Sammy shouts, “So, you’re saying that she tried to kill Cammy, framed her... and then finally murdered her. All just to keep her job?!” “Wha- NO! Are you even listening to me? That’s the opposite of what I was saying!” “Seriously, Percy, you’re jumping to a lot of conclusions here!” Lita says, “Fine, she had a motive. I’ll give you that. But we already discussed the possibility of her being the murderer extensively and just wound up at a deadlock!” “Sure, we didn’t find anything conclusive...” Percy replies, “But I think we’ve at least found enough to make an arrest...” He smiles behind his 3DS and adds, “Right, Vesti?” The detective glares at Percy and shouts, “Of course not! Besides, Argenta isn’t even the only one with a motive!” “Oh, really?” Percy says, “And who would you be referring to?” “Well...” Vesti explains, “There’s someone who has a motive just as good as Argenta... and it’s even backed up with evidence from this notebook.” He points to Sammy’s notes and continues, “...And that perso-” Vesti stops and looks behind him towards the source of the voice. He sees Aura Gold herself running in from the hallway containing the elevators. Once she enters the lobby, she says, “Stop! Continuing this discussion would be inconclusive!” Argenta gasps and says, “A- Aura? What are you doing here?” “Yes, please explain yourself,” Percy mumbles, “We were having an interesting discussion... so I hope you had a good reason to interject...” “I certainly did...” Aura explains, “I happened to come across some evidence that may be related to this case... Evidence that I believe identifies the true culprit!” “What?!” Vesti shouts. Lauren, seemingly unfazed, asks, “...And where is this evidence?” “It should still be located in the first floor stairwell...” Aura explains. She points down the hallway she came from and continues, “Come with me, and I’ll take you there.” “Uh... Well...” Vesti says, “We should probably check this out... Let’s go!” “Sure, why not?” Percy says, “This investigation has already become such a mess that it’ll probably never be recovered. So sure, let’s all take a field trip to the stairwell!” Aura gives him a weird glance and says, “...I’ll just take that as a ‘yes.’” Then she turns and walks back down the hallway, everyone else quickly following her. Lauren and Vesti share a knowing glance before they, too, continue down the hallway. Date: Tuesday, January 5th, 2016. Time: 5:20 PM. Location: Gold Clinic, 1F Stairwell.The entire group arrives in the stairwell, only to realize slightly too late that it’s not really big enough to fit all of them. After a few seconds of everyone struggling to get somewhere with free space, Vesti takes a quick look around. The walls and steps are made of a dull gray metal, so there’s nothing really pleasing to the eye. There is one thing tucked directly under the stairs themselves that catches Vesti’s eye. Dustin seems to notice it too, shouting, “I- Is that... my janitorial cart?” Indeed, the janitorial cart that had been stolen earlier that day is right in front of them, looking unchanged. “Hmm... Interesting...” Vesti says, “This is definitely worth looking into...” But before he can get to that, Argenta barges in, almost swinging the door into Dustin. She shouts, “Hey, Vesti! Ann Istheesa showed up while you guys were leaving, and she brought those case files we wanted!” Vesti replies, “Oh, you mean the ones from five years ago?” “Yep, exactly!” Lita says, smiling. “Just ask me if you wanna see ‘em!” “Alright...” Vesti mumbles, “Those’ll definitely be worth checking out too...” Investigation: 1F StairwellExamine:Stairs, Janitorial Cart. Talk:Lita GatesThe Case Files Move:You ain’t gettin’ outta here, bucko. Present:To Lita Gates What will you do? Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Apr 14, 2018 21:25:17 GMT -5
PRESENT BADGE Then examine the Janitorial Cart.
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Post by Planetbox on Apr 20, 2018 19:33:22 GMT -5
I was really hoping you goofs would ignore those stairs tbh Aww Argenta, just wanna hug you. Let's see them old files then. Check out the janitorial cart! I guess the thief knew there wouldn't be any cameras in the stairwells, so he/she brought it to the stairwell, knowing that no one would think about looking in there. Except Aura Gold. And more importantly, talk about the case files! Poor Argenta Hide my badge in the case files and present it to Lita, tricking her into seeing it. Then look at the stairs and remember that fateful day when I tripped on some while rushing to get to work Edit: what do you mean Alita Tiala isn't a character here Well, I'm sure those stairs are actually the most case-relevant thing of the bunch, so examine them, pronto! Examine: StairsBefore getting to the relevant stuff, Vesti decides to take a quick look at the stairs. Unfortunately, Aura, Dustin, and Percy are standing right at the foot of them, so getting over to there would require pushing past them. Percy in particular probably wouldn’t be pleased with Vesti’s attempts to investigate something completely unrelated to the case at hand. Vesti instead decides to briefly reminisce on a day around three years ago that he will never forget... He had just resolved a particularly difficult case and got back to his apartment late. He quickly went to sleep, but, to his horror, he woke up three hours late for work! He would later learn that this had happened because the plumber who came that day stole his alarm clock, but for the moment, all he cared about was getting to the police station. He tried to take the elevator, but the lady in 7B’s dogs had pooped all over the floor, so he went to the stairwell instead. On the way down, he tripped and tumbled over the railing! Fortunately, someone had left a cart full of used towels on the bottom of the stairwell for some reason, so Vesti survived. But after his near-death experience, Vesti learned an important life-lesson... Always background check your plumbers. Talk: Lita Gates: The Case FilesAfter returning to reality, Vesti turns back to Lita and says, “Alright, Lita. Can I see those case files?” “Of course!” Lita holds out a manila folder with a few papers sticking out of it. Vesti reaches out to grab it, but Lita quickly pulls it away. “Hah! Too slow...” Vesti sighs in annoyance and says, “Okay, this is definitely obstruction of justice...” Lita chuckles and hands over the file without further incident. Vesti looks at the front of folder, which has “The CT-3 Incident” written on it. “Hmm... CT-3...” Vesti mumbles, “I don’t recall hearing that name before...” “That’s no surprise, really...” Lauren Tehra adds, “From my understanding, it was labelled as a suicide pretty quickly...” “Well, now we know that that’s not how it happened...” Vesti says. “Let’s take a closer look...” He opens the folder and pulls out the first page, a typed report marked “Case Overview” “ CT-3 IncidentLead Detective: Magnifi Glass Location of Incident: Gold Clinic Date of Incident: October 15th, 2012 Victims: -Multiple Patients (See Pg 2) -Cammy Tose Conclusion: Cammy caused the blackout and was injured while attempting suicide afterwards. While the suicide note (Pg 4) is admittedly somewhat suspicious, no concrete evidence or testimony has been uncovered to suggest that foul play was involved.” “Yeah, there’s not much on that first page we don’t already know.” Lita says, “There might be more on some of the other pages.” Vesti nods and checks the next page, which lists the patients who were killed in the blackout. None of their names stand out as being recognizable, but Vesti is somewhat surprised to see the blackout victims listed at all. “Wait, so the blackout was part of this case too? I thought it was just about Cammy’s injury...” “I guess they were both included under the same incident name because they were clearly related.” Lauren replies. “Yeah, I suppose...” Vesti mumbles, turning to Page 3. This one has “Injury Report” printed at the top. “Victim: Cammy Tose. (Age 29) Injury consistent with a fall of over three stories. Victim was rendered comatose by the fall and is currently residing at Gold Clinic.” “Hmm... No sign she was pushed, then...” Vesti mumbles. Lita replies, “Well, injury reports aren’t usually as thorough as full autopsies, so if the impressions were faint enough, it might not have come up!” “Yeah, I guess you’re right. Let’s see what else is in here...” The next page is a copy of the suicide note. As Vesti suspected, the whole thing was typed, so it could have easily been faked using a computer. The note itself is also fairly terse, consisting of Cammy discussing her guilt for having accidentally caused the blackout and then giving a somewhat heartfelt goodbye to Sammy. Vesti assumes that this note was the main source of Sammy’s skepticism, but it still doesn’t conclusively prove that Cammy was murdered. Vesti quickly flips through the rest of the folder but doesn’t find anything of interest. The rest of the pages are just lists of evidence or testimonies related to the case, and there isn’t much. Most of what’s there is either something Vesti’s already seen before or something irrelevant. Besides, at this point, he’s distracted by a brilliant plan he just came up with to present his badge to Lita. He discreetly slips his badge out of his pocket and puts it into the case file. Then he hands it back to Lita. “Alright, here you go, Lita. I’ve seen all that I need to see.” “Cool!” Lita says, taking the file... but not opening it. “Yeah, there’s not much in there... but maybe something will be useful.” She holds the folder in front of her and mumbles, “Not sure where I’m gonna put this though...” “Uhh... Maybe you could take another quick look through it while I check out the janitorial cart?” Vesti asks innocently. “Nah, I’m good.” Lita replies, “I guess I’ll just hold onto it for now.” “I can take it,” Lauren says, “There’s probably enough room for it in my evidence bag.” “Oh, thanks, Lauren! Here!” Lita passes the folder to Lauren, who quickly puts it into her bag, with Vesti’s badge still inside. Vesti just stares at Lauren’s badge for a few seconds, thinking about how difficult this one will be to explain. {{CT-3 Case File added to Evidence}} Examine: Janitorial CartVesti finally walks over to the janitorial cart, which looks pretty much the same as it did back at the crime scene. But once he reaches it, he notices something remarkably different. The mopwater, which used to be more of a muddy brown, is now tinged red. Vesti shouts, “Whoa, what? I- Is that BLOOD?” Aura Gold jots something down on her clipboard, mumbling, “Despite his occupation, subject is frightened of blood.” Then she looks up at Vesti and says, “It certainly seems like it. That’s why I reported this cart to you upon discovering it. Unless someone else at this hospital was injured, I’m sure it must be relevant.” “...Yeah probably.” Vesti says, “I guess since the cart was in Cammy’s hospital room, her blood could have, like, flew into the mopwater during the murder? ...Wait, that doesn’t make sense.” “Indeed, it doesn’t...” Lauren says, walking over to the cart. “Step aside. I have another theory.” Vesti gets out of the way as Lauren puts on a pair of rubber gloves. Without hesitation, she reaches into the bloody mopwater and feels around for a bit. Eventually, she pulls something out. Vesti rushes over to get a better look at it. It’s immediately clear what it is: a scalpel, wet with blood. “Wait, what did you guys just find?” Lita shouts. “...It’s a scalpel.” Lauren answers, “Quite bloody too...” “Hey!” Argenta shouts, “M- Maybe that’s the real murder weapon!” “Wh- What!” Dustin says, “Are you saying someone left their bloody murder weapon in my cart?” “It does seem that way...” Lauren replies, “I can’t tell whether all this blood came from the scalpel stabbing someone, or just from it being dropped in the bloody mopwater...” Lauren reaches into her bag and pulls out a familiar bottle of blue liquid: Luminol testing fluid. “Maybe this will shed some light on that...” After performing a quick test, Lauren says, “Yep... I’m getting a reaction from the tip of this scalpel... It definitely lines up with someone getting stabbed with it...” “That must be it, then!” Lita shouts, “That’s the true murder weapon!” Vesti says, “So, the killer stabbed the victim with that scalpel, but before they could wash it, Dustin showed up... So once he was gone, they grabbed the screwdriver and slashed Cammy’s legs with it to make it look like the murder weapon. Then they washed that and left with the scalpel, leaving it there later...” “It certainly seems like it...” Lauren says, “But speaking of which, I did notice something else from the Luminol test that might be important.” “Oh, really?” Vesti asks, “What is it?” “It’s the bloodstain. It cuts out unnaturally about a quarter of the way down the scalpel’s handle.” Lauren explains, “It’s as if something blocked the blood before it could splatter all the way down the scalpel...” “Hmm... That could be relevant...” Vesti mumbles, “I’ll take note of it...” {{Scalpel added to Evidence}} “Surely, you all realize what this means... right?” Vesti turns to Percy, the source of the voice. He had been quietly playing his game for the entire investigation, but now he was smiling smugly. Vesti hesitantly replies, “...No, we don’t know what it means. Judging by your confidence, I assume you have some kind of idea?” “Of course I do... and frankly, I’m disappointed in all of you.” Percy adjusts his glasses and says, “You all let the killer lead you around on their little game. And worst of all, you let yourselves believe that you were doing the right thing while they did it... conducting a ‘thorough investigation’... but the truth is, you were walking right into the killer’s trap!” Vesti sighs and mumbles, “This better not be going where I think it is...” “Deny it all you want, but the evidence we just found tells the whole story...” Percy explains, “The one who killed Cammy Tose... was Dustin Panne.” Dustin just blinks for a few seconds and then gives Percy an unreadable look. Eventually, he says, “...Son, you sure you haven’t been staring at those screens for too long?” “I don’t want to hear another word from you.” Percy snaps, “You’ve led this investigation astray for far too long. Now, I’ll expose your deceit once for all!” Argument: The Abandoned CartPercy: The truth behind this case is actually fairly simple. Percy: The killer used two murder weapons, not to place suspicion upon someone else... Percy: ...but to mislead us and make it look like they were framed! Percy: In doing so, they framed Argenta and ensured that they wouldn’t be accused again after we learned the screwdriver was a fake. Percy: Afterwards, they moved their janitorial cart to this stairwell and left the actual murder weapon inside. Percy: Of course, that murder weapon was this scalpel, which they hoped we wouldn’t find. Percy: That’s because its location reveals the killer’s identity: Dustin Panne! PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. (This is just getting ridiculous... Let’s bust apart this argument as quickly as possible...)Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Apr 20, 2018 23:52:12 GMT -5
Press 2 because as far as I know you can't murder someone twice. Therefore only ONE of the weapons is a murder weapon.
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Post by Planetbox on Apr 27, 2018 17:41:28 GMT -5
@oshalite that’s just a phrasing issue. His point is that Cammy was stabbed with both the screwdriver and the scalpel, though the scalpel is what killed her. Percy?? More like PerSTUPID Percy, Dustin couldn't have move the janitorial cart. Someone else moved it and that someone is Cammy's killer. Dustin was with Vesti and Lauren in the security room when the cart was stolen. Press Statement 2 and 5. Present the stolen cart at statement 5. We saw it being stolen over the real-time feed in the security room, and Dustin was with us at the time. He can't have been the one who took the cart then.Uh yeah what ninja Mc Hanzo said. I mean.... I feel we should point out that a bloody scalpel in a hospital could be gained anywhere. Could have been dropped in the bucket by anyone. Just weird to assume it's a murder weapon. Just take the scalpel and break Percy's 3DS with it. He needs to stop seeing that dumb thing. Also no wonder the blackout investigation was garbage, Magnifi was the lead detective. Press: Statement 6“Wait, maybe we’re jumping to conclusion here!” Vesti shouts, “There’s no reason to just assume this scalpel was the murder weapon!” “What are you talking about?” Percy asks, “The scalpel had blood on it, and the victim was stabbed. Doesn’t get much more conclusive than that.” “But we’re in a hospital!” Vesti replies, “It’s not like bloody scalpels would be hard to come by! Someone could have just used that scalpel during a surgery and then dropped it in that bucket without going anywhere near the crime scene!” “Briefly setting aside how illogical that kind of occurrence would be...” Percy mumbles, seemingly focusing more on his game than the conversation now. “That would leave the theft of this cart completely pointless. There was no reason for the killer to move this cart if they weren’t going to hide the murder weapon in it, so they would have just been putting themselves at risk for nothing.” Before Vesti can reply, Argenta Gold adds, “Not only that, but we’re very careful about where our scalpels go after they’ve been used! After a surgery, the surgeons make sure all the bloody implements are sealed up and shipped off to the decontamination room. It’d be pretty hard for anyone to sneak one out!” “It seems pretty much impossible that Cammy wasn’t stabbed with this scalpel,” Lauren Tehra explains, “While I haven’t tested the blood yet, the luminol made it clear that a fairly large amount of blood landed on the handle. If it was simply used in a surgery, there may have been some blood on the handle, but not that much.” “Okay, okay, I get it! The scalpel was the murder weapon!” Vesti shouts, “Does anyone else want to have a go at me?” “I do!” Lita replies, “I think you’ve gained a little weight, Vesti. Maybe you should lay off the burgers!” “While I do agree, we’ve gone totally off-topic now...” Percy says, “Let’s return to my argument.” (Ugh, this is absolutely ridiculous! I haven’t gained a pound all month!)Present: Stolen Janitor’s Cart: Statement 5“I know you really want to prove you’ve been right all along, Percy...” Vesti says, “But you really should at least try to think through your accusations first!” “Well, if you have a rebuttal, I hope you’ve thought it through more than I supposedly have.” Percy glares at Vesti and continues, “Remember, I’ll only accept undeniable evidence!” “I’d love to see you deny the evidence I have,” Vesti replies, smiling. “Because the fact of the matter is... when that janitorial cart was stolen, Lauren and I were in the exact same room as Dustin!” Percy slowly lowers his 3DS and stares at Vesti, his expression unreadable. “...Come again?” “We only knew someone had stolen the janitorial cart because we watched it happen on camera. That was when Dustin was showing us the security office. There’s absolutely no way he could have both been there with us and been stealing his own cart on the other side of the building at the same time!” “If you won’t take his word for it, take mine.” Lauren adds, “Like Vesti said, I was there too... and it happened exactly as he told it.” “W- Well... Maybe that was just another one of his tricks!” Percy shouts, sweating. “H- He could have stolen the cart earlier and then faked the security footage so you saw it happen while he had an alibi!” Dustin sighs and replies, “We saw it happen on the live monitors. The footage goes straight from the cameras to them. There’s no way to alter it.” “Well, fine. Then that isn’t what happened. Maybe... maybe... yeah, that’s it.” Percy, attempting to look calm and confident, says, “When you’ve eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” Dustin says, “This better not turn out to be as stupid as it sounds.” Percy continues, “If the footage wasn’t faked, then that can only mean one thing... The Dustin Panne the two of you saw was faked! He must have actually been some hobo that Dustin paid off to stand in the security room while dressed up as him! That allowed him to steal the janitorial cart while supposedly having an alibi!” The stairwell goes silent for a moment, and then Lita says, “Wow... Sorry, Dustin, but that was even stupider than it sounded!” “Eh, it’s fine... I’m kinda used to it by now.” Dustin mumbles. “The worst part is that if I recall correctly, Dustin told us his wife’s name when we talked in the security room.” Vesti says, “So not only is that theory completely ridiculous, it’s also impossible.” Percy just glares at everyone for a few seconds and then quietly looks back at his 3DS, furiously tapping at the buttons. “Anyway, there’s a solution far less ‘improbable’ than that one,” Lauren says, “Simply put, the one who stole the janitorial cart, and therefore the killer, was someone other than Dustin.” “But it seems like we’re just back where we started!” Lita exclaims, “Is there any way to narrow down the killer now that we know they took the cart?” “...It might be possible...” Vesti mumbles, “Here’s how...” What could narrow down the identity of the killer?PRESENT evidence. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Apr 29, 2018 21:48:28 GMT -5
Dang. Thought I made a breakthrough on that one. ... is the answer the key ring or Sammy's notes? *wimble-dimble-s cluelessly*
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Post by Planetbox on May 1, 2018 16:19:03 GMT -5
D’awwwww, it’s a baby update! Uhhh... present the Hospital Scrubs? Only doctors have access to them. I cannot believe that knowing the name of Dustin's wife actually helped us. You know who to thank, everyone. Present: Hospital Scrubs“There’s a chance we can narrow down the killer by considering the hospital scrubs they were wearing,” Vesti explains, “After all, not everyone had easy access to those...” Lauren asks, “The only people with these scrubs were the doctors, right?” “Exactly...” Percy says, smiling confidently. “And I can already think of someone with both access to those scrubs and quite a convincing motive...” “Don’t jump to conclusions just yet, Percy.” Vesti replies, “If we simply accuse people because they had scrubs in their office, we’d have to interrogate every doctor in this hospital... No, I think it would be more productive to consider who had the best opportunity to use those scrubs...” “‘Opportunity?’ Whaddaya mean by that?” Lita asks. “Well, the killer couldn’t have predicted that Ann Istheesa would have had the cart moved out to where they could reach it... so they may not have been planning to steal the cart from the beginning at all. In that case, someone here would have had a much easier time of stealing the cart than the other suspects... And that person is most likely Cammy’s killer.” “Well? Don’t leave us in suspense...” Dustin replies. “Who killed Cammy?”PRESENT a profile. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on May 1, 2018 22:01:33 GMT -5
*wimble-dimbles-s defeatedly* Is it okay if I keep guessing until I get a mental foothold on the case? I mean I get the story and the characters and all but HECk I'm bad at getting stuff right. That said I think it was Aura Gold because nobody has mentioned and/or accused her very much yet. Also because she wasn't on the security footage--are we still even using that?
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Post by Planetbox on May 3, 2018 12:50:26 GMT -5
If you want you can DM me about details you're uncertain about, and I can try to clear things up.
I will say that you got the right answer to this question. Admittedly not for the reason I was looking for, but no one's gotten it totally right. And someone on the other forum said it was Ray Seppsun, so...
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Post by Planetbox on May 4, 2018 19:09:40 GMT -5
I’d just like to point out that OshaliteX2 is technically the only person to have answered this anywhere near appropriately. Only one person could have predicted Ann Istheesa's movements. Someone who just so happens to probably have access to medical scrubs due to her profession... Yes, the true killer is Ann herself! What motive does Ann have to kill Cammy? That feels really out of left field. (My actual answer is Aura. She probably has the authority to enter Cammy's room even during an investigation.) Present the notes on Ray Seppsun from Aura's office. It's time to take you down, you fiend! Present: Aura Gold“Let’s think about it this way,” Vesti explains, “No one could have gotten into the crime scene to steal the cart while Ann Istheesa and the police were working there, and no one could have truly predicted that she would ask for the cart to be moved outside either... At least not to the point that they would have decided to patrol the hallway in hospital scrubs... That means that the killer probably simply saw the cart in the hallway and decided to steal it soon afterwards.” “So... where does that get us?!” Lita shouts, “It still could have been anyone!” “Not necessarily,” Vesti continues, “Think about it... If the killer saw the cart in the hallway, and suddenly decided to put on a disguise and steal it, they would have had to go all the way to their office to get the hospital scrubs, and then head back down to where the cart was.” “Hmm...” Dustin mumbles, “That seems like a lot of effort to go to for a last-ditch attempt to frame me...” “Indeed it would be...” Vesti says, “But what if we cut a step out of that equation... What if when the killer saw the cart in the hallway, they were already wearing their hospital scrubs?” Aura Gold stops writing something on her clipboard and looks up at you. “...What are you saying?” Vesti quickly replies, “The killer was the one who had just performed a surgery and was therefore still wearing their scrubs... In layman’s terms...” Vesti points straight at the suspect and shouts, “The killer was you, Aura Gold!”Argenta Gold is the first to react. “Wh- What? Vesti, y- you can’t be serious!” Vesti sighs and says, “I’m sorry, but I’m afraid I am. Aura simply had the best opportunity to steal the janitorial cart... which makes her the most suspicious.” “B- But... come on!” Argenta shouts, “She wouldn’t do something like this!” “Do not worry yourself, Argenta.” Aura says, sounding calm despite the accusation. “I will take things from here.” She turns back to Vesti and flips through pages on her clipboard. “So, as I understand it, you intend to accuse me of murder... because I performed a surgery that saved a man’s life?” “Well... essentially, yes,” Vesti replies awkwardly. “I’m looking at the facts here. And the point is, after you left that surgery, you would have had those scrubs with you, either on your person or in your hands. Therefore, stealing that cart would have been easy.” “Didn’t you say earlier that any scalpels that were used in surgery would have to be decontaminated?” Percy Graham asks, “Wouldn’t the same idea apply to the scrubs?” “Well, if I’m rememberin’ right...” Dustin mumbles, “Once a surgery was over, the surgeon would get their scrubs decontaminated and then bring them up to their office afterwards... It’s not like it’s a particularly long process...” “So, what? That’s it?” Argenta shouts, “Y- You’re just gonna arrest my sister over something as stupid as that!” “Like I said, Argenta. Do not worry yourself.” Aura replies, “Indeed, his accusations are nothing more than whimsical fancy. Allow me to expose them as such.” Argument: A Ridiculous NotionAura: So, you intend to pin this crime on me? Well, I’m afraid it’s not going to work. Aura: I was in my office during the entire period before the surgery. Aura: Even if you do not believe me, you cannot prove I ever left. Aura: I am not the criminal here. Dustin Panne is. Aura: He could have held on to his old scrubs all these years... Aura: ...and somehow coerced an accomplice to steal the cart while he was accounted for. Aura: Simply put, you should rethink your logic. You are making a huge mistake here. PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. (Aura’d have to be pretty smart to keep this hospital running for so long, so she might be a tough opponent... Either way, there must be something I can use here.)Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on May 6, 2018 19:53:59 GMT -5
The fact that I got that right is the biggest twist in this case so far
Press 2 and 3, maybe. All I can think to use as a contradiction is the room ransacking, but that seems to line up with her current argument.
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Post by Planetbox on May 12, 2018 19:33:43 GMT -5
Oh yeah, the logical inconsistencies there were just me having to rewrite that part of the testimony after discussion in a previous update had totally invalidated what I originally had written there. Whoopsie daisy Oh, duh XD Aura's logic doesn't quite line up here - if no-one thought the cart was able to be taken, then Dustin had no reason to hire an accomplice and bring his scrubs. Still, not really the core of the argument so I dunno if that helps. Press statements 2 and 3! Oi PB I see you dissing me over there Press statement 6 anyhow. You don't even have any proof Dustin had an accomplice, and we can interrogate everyone here at the hospital to find out. You think they'd lie over that, Aurie? Yes that is my nickname for her now deal with it. In honesty I think it's something hidden in statements 2 and 3 too but I don't see a contradiction yet. But...if we jail Aura then we've got little to no chance of a date with Argenta! So concede she's right, arrest Dustin and go on that date! Dustin's had like every job ever, throw "prisoner" on the list too. Press: Statement 2Vesti asks, “And what, exactly, were you doing in your office?” Aura looks back to her clipboard and begins writing furiously, mumbling, “Subject has an unnerving interest in this hospital’s private matters...” “Well, that’s the time frame in which you may have been murdering Cammy,” Vesti replies, “So I have a feeling it might be important!” Aura sighs and responds, “If you must know, I was dealing with paperwork the entire time. I doubt you wish me to go into the excruciating details, but I always spend the majority of my time in the office during an average work day, so it’s hardly unreasonable that I would have spent an hour there today.” “Still, there aren’t any cameras up there...” Vesti responds, “So you can’t conclusively prove that you were actually in that office the entire time!” “Nor can you conclusively prove that I ever left,” Aura says, “And I’m not the one making the accusations here. You are.” Percy Graham adds, “Simply put, there’s no evidence that Aura was even at the scene of the crime. The camera footage provided conclusive evidence that Argenta and Dustin had an opportunity to kill the victim, but apparently that wasn’t good enough for you...” (If I’m going to get anywhere with this, I need to find proof that Aura was at the crime scene... or, at the very least, evidence that Aura wasn’t in her office the entire time like she claims...)Present: Room Ransacking: Statement 3Coming to a sudden realization, Vesti shouts, “Wait! There’s no way you could have spent that entire hour in your office!” “Really?” Aura asks, “And how can you be so certain of that? Like I said, without camera footage, there’s no evidence that I ever left.” Vesti replies, “There may not be evidence, but there is a witness whose testimony can prove if you were really in that office!” “And who would that be?” Aura says, “I’ll admit that no one ever saw me in the office, but I wouldn’t consider that fact conclusive.” “Well, this witness may have not seen you in the office, which is definitely conclusive.” Vesti points and shouts, “And the person I’m talking about... is Sammy Tose!” “Huh?” Sammy responds, “What do I have to do with this?” Vesti explains, “After visiting Cammy’s hospital room, you went to Aura’s room to do some investigating with the help of the key ring you’d stolen earlier. This eventually led to you searching Aura Gold’s room, right?” Sammy replies, “Yeah... I had to go at that time since it was my only chance.” “Well, I have a question for you, Sammy.” Vesti says, “Was Aura Gold actually in the room when you searched it?” “Of course not...” Sammy replies, “I wouldn’t have gone in otherwise...” “Hmm... That’s interesting...” Vesti mumbles, “So, during the time period in which Aura was supposedly doing paperwork in her office, Sammy arrived and, discovering it to be empty, stuck around to search it for a little while... I think it’s fairly obvious what that means!” “W- Well,” Argenta says, “M- Maybe Aura just left to use the bathroom for a little while!” “Nah, I kinda doubt it,” Sammy interjects, “I made it to the office after she left and spent a good few minutes in there, but I didn’t see any sign of her.” “In that case...” Vesti continues, “Aura, would you mind explaining to us exactly what you were actually doing during the hour in which the murder occurred?” Aura shakes her head in disappointment and says, “Must I remind you whose testimony you’re relying on here? I’m not changing my story. I was in that office the entire time. This man’s testimony simply cannot be trusted...” Argument: A Suspicious TestimonyAura: Considering that he illegally infiltrated our hospital numerous times... Aura: ...you seem to be choosing to trust Mr. Tose’s words rather quickly. Aura: Perhaps he is merely pinning the blame on me to save his own skin? Aura: If he was on the top floor, he could have murdered Cammy himself... Aura: ...and then quickly ransacked my room after I left to give himself an alibi. Aura: He also could have stolen that janitor’s cart himself... Aura: ...as yet another means of misdirection. PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. (I doubt Sammy could have committed this murder, but as long as he remains a suspect, I can’t really use his words as evidence. I may need to use logic to combat this testimony, rather than concrete proof...)Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on May 12, 2018 21:34:41 GMT -5
Uhhhhh security footage at 4? Sammy leaves way too quickly, probably, to ransack anyone's room--BUT I may be looking at the wrong time. I probably am. Oops.
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Post by Planetbox on May 21, 2018 18:16:36 GMT -5
The surgery happened at about the same time as the body discovery and initial investigation. Theoretically, Sammy could have done it during this time, but that leaves him unaccounted for for a fairly long amount of time. The main point of the last contradiction was that Aura couldn’t have been in the office while Sammy was there, and then Sammy claimed that he ransacked the office during the hour in which he wasn’t seen. Confession time this is like the worst argument in the case sorry guys. Also it being late probably doesn’t help. I feel like I'm confused here. We busted Sammy for breaking and entering not murder. Press her to find out he could quickly do both these things. Press the penultimate statement. B-but where would he get the scrubs from? Only doctors have access to them, we already pointed that out! I thought the ransacking wasn't a contradiction because Aura was doing surgery at some point and so said that's when the ransacking must have occurred. But I suppose the point is Sammy did it much earlier than that, as we know when he left Cammy's room? Is it a logic problem to point out the issue with dressing up to steal a cart you didn't even know was stealable? Our reason for suspecting Aura in the first place was that no-one knew the cart would be out in the hall, ready to be taken. So only a doctor had reason to be wandering around in scrubs already at the time. Though I guess Dustin had this issue too. Press: Statement 5“Wait,” Vesti shouts, “We busted Sammy for breaking and entering, not for murder!” “What makes you think he couldn’t have done both?” Aura asks. “He didn’t even have to ransack my office, he could have simply thrown random things around the room to make it look as if he had.” “That is true,” Percy adds, “Making it look like he was searching the office would have given him a quick alibi at the very least...” Vesti responds, “But would he really have time to murder the victim and then go back to Aura’s office to make a mess of it?” “I imagine he would have,” Aura replies, “If we go by the assumption that the murderer left the crime scene by climbing up the back of the sign, they would have been right there on the fifth floor before I left for my surgery. All it would have taken was a quick stop at my office to make it look like Sammy had been there.” “But wait!” Lita shouts, “Why would he have left the hospital room so early then? And where would he go afterwards if he wasn’t trying to search your office?!” “I can’t claim to understand all of the suspect’s actions...” Aura replies, “But it’s hardly my job to. I am simply a doctor, not a detective.” “Maybe he was gathering materials that would be essential to the murder?” Percy says, “Since he didn’t work here, it would have been harder for him to come by, say, the scalpel, which he needed for his plot.” “Or maybe I was just searching the director’s room...” Sammy mumbles irritably. “You know, like I said I was...” Ignoring him, Percy continues, “Either way, the possibility that he committed this murder certainly exists. And with that in mind, it wouldn’t be wise to trust his word. He could simply be throwing suspicion on Aura to avoid it himself.” “Or maybe...” Sammy adds, “I’m telling the truth to try to help you all solve this murder...” (This doesn’t seem like it’s going anywhere... Let’s focus on something else for now.)Press: Statement 6Vesti asks, “But wait, where would Sammy have gotten the scrubs from? Only doctors have access to them!” “That’s simply because they’re usually kept in the doctors’ offices.” Aura explains, “I don’t think I need to remind you that Mr. Tose has already admitted to breaking into my office, so he could have easily stolen the hospital scrubs then...” Percy adds, “Depending on how late he pretended to search Aura’s office, that could line up well with the time at which the cart was stolen, too...” “Wait wait wait...” Vesti interjects, “Didn’t we already establish that the culprit had no way of knowing the cart would even be stealable? Sammy would have had no reason to take the scrubs with him!” “Oh yeah, that’s right!” Lita shouts, “That’s the main reason it seems like it was Aura Gold, isn’t it? Cause she already had her hospital scrubs with her!” “Again, that is hardly conclusive. It is simply the most convenient solution.” Aura replies, though she seems to be looking somewhat nervous. “There are other possibilities... For example, perhaps Sammy chose to disguise himself before he left, in case someone was waiting outside. Or perhaps he hoped to plant the scrubs somewhere to frame me for the murder.” “Or perhaps I wanted to wear the scrubs to a rave!” Sammy shouts. “The possibilities are simply endless when you don’t care about what actually happened!” Aura resumes writing on her clipboard, mumbling, “Subject tends to use sarcasm to mask his guilt.” “Wait!” Vesti shouts, “He couldn’t have stolen your scrubs when he ransacked the office! You were wearing them!” “Oh... Right.” Aura says, seemingly somewhat taken aback. She slowly continues, “W- Well, perhaps he quickly slipped into an office to take a pair.” “No, don’t even try that one!” Vesti replies, “Your explanations for Sammy taking the scrubs are way too flimsy to justify him going into a completely different office to steal them! Sure, it’s possible he could have, but it’s so unlikely that it’s barely even worth considering!” Dustin Panne adds, “Honestly, I’m more inclined to just believe the word of a guy who broke into an office with my keys than whatever all that rubbish was...” “Well, the theft of that cart is hardly the main point of my argument,” Aura replies, “Even if he didn’t steal it, he could have still committed the murder itself.” “You’ve gotta be kidding me!” Lita shouts, “Didn’t we decide a while ago that the one who stole the janitor’s cart must have been the murderer?!” “It’s alright...” Vesti says, “She wants me to prove that Sammy couldn’t have killed the victim, so I guess that’s what I’ll have to do.” (A good accusation usually requires means, motive, and opportunity... Is there one of these that Sammy doesn’t have?)Argument: A Suspicious TestimonyAura: Considering that he illegally infiltrated our hospital numerous times... Aura: ...you seem to be choosing to trust Mr. Tose’s words rather quickly. Aura: Perhaps he is merely pinning the blame on me to save his own skin? Aura: If he was on the top floor, he could have murdered Cammy himself... Aura: ...and then quickly ransacked my room after I left to give himself an alibi. Aura: He also could have stolen that janitor’s cart himself... Aura: ...as yet another means of misdirection. PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. (I doubt Sammy could have committed this murder, but as long as he remains a suspect, I can’t really use his words as evidence. I may need to use logic to combat this testimony, rather than concrete proof...)Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on May 25, 2018 18:07:29 GMT -5
Gone fishin' “The possibilities are simply endless when you don’t care about what actually happened!” Anyway... the obvious thing to point out is that he doesn't remotely have a motive, right? Quite the opposite, really. Throw that at statement 4. What Kami said except present the Tose photo as well as evidence. I think we might actually be getting somewhere here! This is quite exciting, really. Present: Statement 4: Tose PhotoVesti explains, “I will admit that it’s possible that Sammy could have killed Cammy... but I seriously doubt he would have.” “And what makes you think that?” Aura asks, “Do you have any evidence to back up that claim?” “No, I don’t have anything except this photograph...” Vesti says, pulling out the photo of the couple together. “But I don’t think I need evidence either... The fact is, Sammy simply doesn’t have a motive.” “Of course I don’t,” Sammy says, “I’ve already spoken at length on that subject.” “Well, we can’t necessarily be certain of that...” Aura responds, “It’s not too unreasonable that a husband would kill their wife... I’ve seen the results of such affairs myself a few times.” “Oh, don’t you start...” Sammy mumbles. “I’m really not seeing anything like that from the two of them. It sounds like they had a very good relationship.” Vesti continues, “I mean, Sammy visited his wife almost every day, and even broke the law just to find out what happened to her. That doesn’t really line up with a case like that!” “Not to mention,” Lauren adds, “We’ve been going under the assumption that Cammy was murdered to keep her from talking about the incident in which she was injured five years ago. Sammy wasn’t even in the building back then, so there was absolutely no reason for him to wait this long to commit the murder.” “Y- Yeah...” Argenta says, “Even I have to admit that this doesn’t really make much sense...” “Factoring in the whole deal with my janitor’s cart, accusing this guy is just completely ridiculous...” Dustin mumbles. “Honestly, I would be inclined to agree.” Percy says, “Aura do you have anything to say about this?” Aura didn’t respond. She just silently wrote something on her clipboard, looking nervous. Eventually, Vesti said, “If you won’t say anything, then I suppose I will. Here’s what I think happened. You somehow discovered that Cammy had awoken from her coma, perhaps simply because Argenta told you. Deciding that she had to be silenced, you left your office around 7:35, taking a scalpel with you. You made your way to the storage closet, unlocked the door with your keys, and then climbed down into Cammy’s room using the back of the hospital sign, thereby avoiding the security cameras. Then you quickly stabbed Cammy with the scalpel, knocking over the stool and the bedsheets in the ensuing struggle. But before you could wash the weapon and escape, you heard Dustin approaching thanks to the wheels on his janitor’s cart, forcing you to push the rest of the sheets onto the floor and hide under the bed. Then, once he was gone, you decided to frame him. So you took one of his screwdrivers and got the victim’s blood on it by slashing her legs. Then you washed it and returned it to Dustin’s cart, which you later stole to hide the original murder weapon in. And in doing so, you gave away your identity as the killer...” Vesti points and says, “So, what do you have to say about that, Aura Gold?!” Eventually, Aura Gold let out a sigh and returned to writing on her clipboard. “Subject is quick to make well-constructed, but meaningless, accusations...” “‘Meaningless?’” Vesti asks, “What are you talking about?” “All of that was simple conjecture,” Aura explains, “You cannot back it up with a single piece of evidence. Anyone on the fifth floor of this building and quite a few people on the lower floors could have committed this murder in the way you outlined. Therefore, it’s worthless.” “But you’re the only one who could have stolen that cart!” Vesti says. “Th- That doesn’t mean she killed anyone!” Argenta shouts, “M- Maybe the killer dropped the scalpel into the cart while it was in the hallway... and then Aura found it and tried to hide it from them!” “Just when I thought this thing couldn’t get any more ridiculous...” Sammy mumbles. “Well, either way, it doesn’t really matter...” Lita adds, “Her stealing the janitor’s cart is suspicious, sure... but it’s not really proof that she killed anyone.” “Perhaps we should focus on a new avenue of discussion, then...” Vesti says. What topic should be more thoroughly discussed?PRESENT evidence. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on May 30, 2018 15:21:50 GMT -5
The syringe?
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Post by Planetbox on Jun 8, 2018 15:58:03 GMT -5
This update probably wasn’t worth the wait oops We all know the one piece of evidence that hasn't been fully discussed. Present... the Police Badge! I...think so. Everything else we've gone on about. I'm just gonna stop you guys right there cause I totally meant to include the syringe in that second paragraph but I just forgot. Vesti would have said that it was used to give Cammy anesthesia so no one would know she woke up. Wait...so that leaves two things. The first is Dustin's spare keys being stolen. Not sure if they're relevant but they could actually be stolen by Aura somehow. Another is the window and gutter in Aura's office. Could she have used that somehow? The keys were stolen by Sammy to explore, right? The blood splatter on the scalpel is still suspicious, I guess. While the scalpel hasn't been discussed, it isn't the answer I was looking for. I was looking for something more broad than that. Normally I'd just go on forward anyway because this question is kinda dumb, but I don't think I'll have time to update today or this weekend, so I'll just give you people the chance to get the right answer instead, I guess. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA Oh the chair repositioning? I guess? Discus the events from 5 years ago in more detail maybe? So present Sammy's Notes, we can trust them now that we're pretty sure he didn't do it. Present: Sammy’s Notes“Obviously, we’re not making any progress by discussing this particular incident,” Vesti says, “So perhaps we should instead focus on another incident that was most likely committed by the culprit of this one.” “You’re talking about Cammy’s attempted murder, aren’t you?” Lauren asks. “Exactly,” Vesti replies, “In fact, Lita and I were discussing that case earlier, before we caught Sammy. I think we should pick up where we left off and see where it takes us.” “So we’re gonna bring back some sibling power, huh?” Lita says, “Sounds like a great idea!” “Is it really necessary to dredge up that old affair?” Aura asks, “It wasn’t exactly a pleasant time in this clinic’s history. I’d rather allow the past to remain in the past...” “Sorry, but I intend to find the truth of this murder, no matter what I have to dredge up!” Vesti turns to Lita and asks, “So, where did we get to last time?” Lita answers, “Well, we know that Cammy couldn’t have been pushed out of the window of the 4th floor because of the flowerbox... so we need to figure out where she was actually pushed from!” “Well then, take it away, sis!” Vesti says. Lita does a quick fist pump and says, “Gladly!” Argument: A Discussion One Hour in the Making!Lita: Well, we know that Cammy wasn’t pushed through her office window. Lita: So in order to land where she did, she had to come from another room above or below that one! Lita: But there are four others floors plus a roof to choose from... Lita: Admittedly, if she was pushed off the roof someone probably would have seen her up there. Lita: And I don’t think getting shoved out of a first story window would cause much beyond a few bruises. Lita: So... the 2nd, 3rd, and 5th floors are all possibilities! PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Jun 10, 2018 23:09:30 GMT -5
Press 3 or present the Window and Hospital Sign at 4, I think?
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Post by Planetbox on Jun 15, 2018 18:36:42 GMT -5
I thought I was gonna have to release this tomorrow but apparently not. Yaaaaaaaaaaay progress! Present the CT-3 case file at the last statement. The fall was from over three stories, according to the autopsy. Oh neato. I guess this means that Argenta was covering for Aura all along, meaning she's innocent? That'll make my post-case fanfic easy to write. Present: Statement 6: CT-3 Case File“Wait, that isn’t true,” Vesti says, “Cammy could only have been pushed out of one of those floors...” “Oh, really? Why do you say that?” Lita asks. “The evidence is in the injury report written five years ago,” Vesti explains, “It said that Cammy’s injuries were consistent with a fall of ‘over three stories.’ Therefore, it’s unlikely that Cammy could have fallen from the second or third floors...” “Ah, interesting...” Lita says, “Wait, hold on! That leaves only one floor, doesn’t it?” “Yes, it does. That means Cammy had to be pushed from the fifth floor...” Vesti turns and points at his suspect. “Which happens to be your office, Aura Gold. Care to explain that one?” Aura Gold falls silent for a few telling moments, but she eventually responds, “There’s not much to explain, really.” “What’s that supposed to mean?” Lita shouts, “Are you saying we’re just supposed to dismiss the fact that an attempted murder happened right in your office?” “I- I think I know what she means,” Argenta says, “Sh- She’s saying that someone else could have committed the murder from her office, t- to frame her!” “That doesn’t make sense,” Lauren responds, “If they meant to frame Aura, they wouldn’t have made the crime scene appear to be a different room entirely.” “While that is true, it seems more reasonable to assume that the crime scene was Cammy’s office, as we initially suspected.” Aura says, “Allow me to explain.” Argument: Five Years AgoAura: Even if Cammy was pushed from my office, that doesn’t mean I was responsible. Aura: Not to mention, I find it doubtful that she fell from my office in the first place. Aura: After all, it seems ridiculous to change your stance on a case over a few flowers. Aura: Remember, a suicide note was found in Cammy’s office, and you cannot prove that it was fake. Aura: You claim the investigation was insubstantial, but only because it contradicts your conclusion. Aura: The investigation holds up; Cammy committed suicide out of guilt for causing the blackout. Aura: Any evidence you have suggesting Argenta committed it is all circumstantial. PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. (I’m almost there... I know the proof I’m looking for lies somewhere in this testimony!)Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Jun 22, 2018 15:04:54 GMT -5
The computer-written part was written in the CT-3 Case File. Also I couldn’t figure out how to put this in the post so I’ll say it here. Cammy fell from the building a little while after the blackout happened, so there was at least enough time for her or someone else to have written the note. help Can we perform a handwriting analysis on the suicide note? Press the last statement. Yes, let's perform handwriting analysis on a computer-written note. Maybe it's a font Cammy would never use? Though looking at the evidence, was the computer-written aspect recorded anywhere? The note is definitely pretty suspicious, anyway. Press the fourth statement, I suppose. Hey, how do you know it's actually computer written and not by a person trying to emulate a font?! It's just a theory here! Hmm could there be something in the timing? The suicide note was discovered hours after the blackout but how quickly was Sammy discovered after the incident? Would she have had time? Sammy's notes seem to indicate she was seen on a stretcher on the day of the blackout but that's not odd in itself. If we know the time of Cammy's fall we might be able to prove she couldn't have planted the note? Press the statement about how the suicide note couldn't have been faked. I mean...that or we get the IT experts at HQ to scan Argenta's hard drive to determine whether it's hidden somewhere in its memory. Press: Statement 4“If I recall correctly, that note had been typed on a computer,” Vesti says, “Because it wasn’t handwritten, there’s no proof that Cammy made it herself, so it could have easily been faked.” “Just as there’s no proof Cammy made it, there’s no proof I made it,” Aura replies, “Besides, the note was found in her office. If I had written it, then how did I take it there?” “Well, uhh... You could have just walked into her office and left it there, right?” “Not quite,” Aura replies, “While I certainly could have gotten the note in that way, I would have been caught by the security cameras. Based on the great lengths you claim I went to in order to avoid those cameras when I murdered Cammy, it seems strange that I wouldn’t have been worried about them back then.” “Maybe you managed to leave it there without appearing in front of the security cameras?” Vesti says. “If I could have done that, feel free to show me how. But as it stands, there is no reason to name me as guilty over Cammy herself.” {{New statement added.}} Argument: Five Years AgoAura: Even if Cammy was pushed from my office, that doesn’t mean I was responsible. Aura: Not to mention, I find it doubtful that she fell from my office in the first place. Aura: After all, it seems ridiculous to change your stance on a case over a few flowers. Aura: Remember, a suicide note was found in Cammy’s office, and you cannot prove that it was fake. Aura: Even if it was faked, I would have needed to drop it off in her office, but I couldn’t have done so without being seen. Aura: You claim the investigation was insubstantial, but only because it contradicts your conclusion. Aura: The investigation holds up; Cammy committed suicide out of guilt for causing the blackout. Aura: Any evidence you have suggesting Argenta committed it is all circumstantial. PRESS a statement or PRESENT evidence. (I’m almost there... I know the proof I’m looking for lies somewhere in this testimony!)Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Jun 23, 2018 16:17:35 GMT -5
Present the window and gutter?
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Post by Planetbox on Jun 25, 2018 14:11:14 GMT -5
For each subsequent update, the probability that I will fail to come up with a witty spoilerbox quip gradually approaches one. Present the window/gutter on the new statement. I think that explains it well enough. Makes sense to me. Dang Aura's like a ninja. Aura is Hanzo confirmed????? Yeah, what SC said makes sense. Cammy's office is below Aura's office. But I think that brings up another issue: Cammy's flowerbox. At the time of Cammy's ' attempted suicide', the flowerbox was hanging outside her office's window. So, Aura would have to get into Cammy's office without stepping into the flowerbox. Consults with Lauren about whenever it was possible to get into Cammy's office without stepping into her flowerbox. {Southern Corn wrote: Aura is Hanzo confirmed?????} {Hanzo Shimada wrote: Yeah, what SC said makes sense.} Dang I can't believe we're unravelling so many secrets here today. Though are we sure Aura/the culprit didn't step into the flower box? Not sure if we've seen much proof regarding that. Was the flower box left untouched after the "suicide attempt"? I mean the box was removed right? Or maybe she just used her special Hanzo horizontal dive move to go right over it? This seems like the only way to run with just now. Perhaps she did mess up the flowers but then got rid of them and reassigned the office to cover it up. Consult: Lauren TehraBefore moving on with the accusation, Vesti turns to Lauren and asks, “So, it seems like Aura could have gotten into Cammy’s office by climbing down the gutter and into the window... but if she had, wouldn’t she have messed up the flower box?” “Well, think back to why the flower box was important,” Lauren replies, “We didn’t use it to discount the idea that someone had climbed through the window. We used it to discount the idea that someone was pushed out the window.” “But either one would have left evidence behind, right?” Vesti asks. “Not necessarily,” Aura continues, “To push someone out that window, you’d essentially need to shove them over the flowerbox. This would most likely tear up all the flowers and possibly get dirt all across the floor, if they struggled. But when climbing into the window, it would be fairly easy to simply step over the flowers. So if that’s what Aura had done, it probably wouldn’t have been noticeable in either of the photos.” “Ah, yeah, that does make sense,” Vesti says, “Then perhaps we’re actually getting somewhere!” Present: New Statement: Window and Gutter“Actually,” Vesti explains, “There was a way you could get that note into Cammy’s office without being seen.” “Was there, really?” Aura asks, “If so, please do enlighten me.” “Of course. The truth is, you used a strategy almost exactly like the one you used today: you climbed through the window,” Vesti explains, “But this time, you used the gutter on the other side of your office window to do it!” “Th- That’s ridiculous!” Argenta shouts, “How could she have pulled that off without being seen?!” “Hmm... When did Cammy’s injury actually occur again?” Percy asks. “I don’t recall the exact time, but it was definitely pretty late at night,” Dustin answers, “I imagine it was dark enough for anyone on the street to have just missed her.” “Then that must be the answer!” Vesti shouts, “That’s how you got into Cammy’s office and left the note without anyone noticing you!” Aura spends a few moments nervously flipping through her clipboard, but eventually, she stops at one of the pages and starts writing. “Subject does not seem to truly comprehend the meaning of ‘proof.’” “I think I’ve provided plenty of proof by now...” Vesti says. “No, you have simply provided possibilities and conjecture,” Aura says, “If you wish to seriously accuse me of having a hand in Cammy’s injury, then I need to see evidence. However, you seem to have as little proof that I used that gutter as you do that I pushed Cammy out that window.” “Hmm... Well, you’re right. I should be providing proof along with my accusations,” Vesti says, “However, I think I just might have the evidence you’re looking for...” “Well, don’t hesitate, then...” Percy says, lowering his 3DS and pointing towards Vesti. “Where’s the proof that Aura attempted to murder Cammy?”PRESENT evidence. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Sept 7, 2018 16:44:04 GMT -5
I’M BACK BABY Aura casually digging her own grave. {Quote: “Not necessarily,” Aura continues, “To push someone out that window, you’d essentially need to shove them over the flowerbox.} Also wow bringing up the big questions now. Err... present Sammy's notes? Something there probably is what we need maybe. I was going to point out that Aura insisted she sent Cammy to the breaker instead of Argenta who we now know did it, but that's not really proof of anything other than her trying to cover for her sister. Can't we ask Argenta to confess? She was most likely the accomplice in the incident, after all. NEVAAAAAAR! We hold on as long as we can. An accomplice? From my view she likely knew nothing about this - Aura was trying protect her, I don't think she'd have told Argenta anything. Oh, right. I forgot that Argenta caused the blackout, not necessarily Cammy's coma. I forgot they're separate incidents. In that case, there's only one possible solution! Present the police badge. I just realised that due to F4 this topic will be going on hiatus for a month or so rip. Can't wait to see everyone's annoyance at the extremely unnecessary police badge present then. Vesti considers presenting his police badge but then remembers that it’s still trapped in Lauren’s evidence bag! Ain’t that embarrassing? Present: Sammy’s Notes“The evidence just might be hidden within the notes Sammy collected!” Vesti proclaims, sticking a finger into the air. “They ‘might’ be?” Percy asks, “I’d hope the evidence itself is more concrete than your certainty of its location.” “It most certainly is!” Vesti says as he pulls out Sammy’s notepad. “Just give me a minute to track it down. There are a lot of pages in this thing!” Vesti flips through the notepad, searching desperately for a shred of relevant evidence. “Hmm... Vesti, are you doing okay?” Lita asks, “You don’t look too hot.” Vesti wipes sweat off his forehead as he flips to the page containing various testimonies. “Don’t worry, I’m fine! Just hold on... I’m sure it’s in here somewh- AHA!” Vesti jabs his finger against the notepad and begins reading. “Janet ‘Rusty’ Torr, Janitor: Accompanied the party that took in Cammy. The body was never left alone before reaching the hospital room. The next day, she was called to fix the gutter, which had apparently gotten broken at some point!” After a few moments of silence, Aura slowly remarks, “So... a janitor fixed a gutter. What exactly is so important about that?” “Do I really need to say anything more?” Vesti replies, “Remember, everyone. I just explained that Aura used the gutter to climb into Cammy’s office and leave the suicide note there. With that in mind, it’s self-explanatory!” “So what you’re sayin’ is...” Dustin mumbles, “The gutter was broken from the weight of Aura climbing up and down it?” “Precisely!” “Wait,” Argenta shouts, “If the gutter was broken, wouldn’t she have fallen off?!” “Well, I guess it depends on exactly how it broke...” Dustin explains, “If just the top disconnected, it probably would have remained upright long enough for her to reach the window. That kind of damage probably wouldn’t have been noticed until the morning either...” “Well, what if it was broken from the bottom?” Argenta adds. “That... doesn’t sound particularly likely,” Dustin replies, “But I think she still could’ve returned to her office.” “All things considered, the nature of the broken gutter is hardly important,” Aura says, “Discussing this further is avoiding the root of the issue: how non-conclusive this proof is.” “You’ve got to be kidding me,” Vesti replies, “That janitor’s testimony proves that the gutter was broken on the night of the incident. There was no reason for that to happen unless someone climbed down it. And the only one with any reason to climb down it was you!” “Not only that,” Lauren adds, “But with proof that you attempted to murder Cammy five years ago, you become a convincing suspect in her murder today.” “That may be true,” Aura replies, “But I’d hardly consider a few aimless jottings in a notebook to be conclusive. Mr. Tose could have easily made up those details later.” “Oh come on!” Sammy shouts, looking as if he’d throw a hand to his forehead if he wasn’t handcuffed. “Why would I make up a detail as random as that?! You keep making me out to be some criminal mastermind, when I was just a man who loved his wife!” “That aside,” Lauren interjects, “It should be easy enough to track down this ‘Janet Torr’ and get more reliable testimony from her. At the very least, this is more than enough evidence for a reasonable arrest.” “N-No! You can’t!” Argenta shouts, “I won’t believe it!” Ignoring her, and seemingly everyone outside of his video game, Percy says, “Personally, I’d say this is plenty conclusive. And I’m not about to leave Dr. Gold free to tamper with evidence while we look for something she accepts. So, Mr. Gates... I suppose I must reluctantly ask you to arrest her.” “...Of course,” Vesti hesitantly pulls out his handcuffs. “Wait!” Aura holds up a hand and says, “...Not just yet... I’d like to ask that you do something first.” Vesti stops in his tracks and stares skeptically at Aura, holding onto the handcuffs. “‘F-First?’” Argenta says, “Y-You’re not just gonna let them take you in for this, are you?” Aura looks away from her solemnly and slowly continues, “You’ve accused me of being responsible for two incidents now... but you’ve never explained why.” “As I said earlier, evidence is more important than motive.” Percy replies, “I see no reason to delay the arrest.” “Still, as a doctor, my reputation is quite important.” Aura continues, “I have taken an oath to do no harm. In order to forsake all that and attempt to murder someone twice, I’d need a very good reason... and that isn’t something we can simply gloss over. So, I’d like to know... what was my motive?” Vesti turns away, sighs, and says, “I think I have an answer for you...” What was Aura’s motive?PRESENT evidence or a profile. Prestige: 85% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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