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Post by OshaliteX2 on Oct 15, 2017 12:06:10 GMT -5
Present badge to Sammy and ask his favorite color. Then talk about Cammy and maybe examine the front desk.
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Post by Planetbox on Oct 20, 2017 17:50:09 GMT -5
Geez guys what is your problem I used "solemnly" like onceThis update doesn’t even have that word in it! Thanks for the confirmation! Can't see much need to provide any evidence above the usual just yet. Examine the front desk while we're here, I guess. SOLEMNLY present the police badge. Talk about the day of the incident and Cammy Tose. Then presents Cammy's Injury. Let's see what he have to say about this. Talk to him about himself and note that his name rhymes with that of his wife. Also SOLEMNLY ask him about his favourite colour. Examine: Front DeskBefore actually speaking to the witness, Vesti takes a quick glance over at the front desk. It looks like an average front desk, like the one in most of the hospitals that Vesti’s visited. The base of the desk is wood, with a top made of some kind of marble. The desk has two tiers, so the receptionist can keep stuff on the desk without the patients getting their grubby hands all over them. A bored-looking woman sits beside the desk, shuffling through papers. Vesti, recognizing her from the last time he was here, says, “Hey, Lauren, do you think we should ask the receptionist about the murder?” Lauren quickly glances at the desk, and says, “No, I’d rather not talk to her... I remember her being rather rude when we were last here.” Present: Sammy Tose: Police Badge“Now, before we get into the painful questions about what happened...” Vesti says, “I’d like to show you my badge!” Vesti quickly pulls out his police badge and then holds it out in front of Sammy, who stares at the badge for a few seconds and lets out a pained sigh. He mumbles, “That badge... it’s the same color as the necklace she wore... on our wedding day...” He clenches his fist and looks to the ground, and single tear sliding down his face. Lauren mumbles, “Vesti, we need to be careful with him. He’s probably really upset. Stop bringing up bad memories.” Vesti loudly whispers, “How the heck was I supposed to know that would happen?!” He sighs and puts the badge away. Talk: Sammy Tose: Day of the IncidentOnce Sammy seems to have calmed down, Vesti asks, “So, we know you were here at the hospital at the time of the, uh... incident. What were you doing from noon to 12:50 today?” Sammy lowers his glasses and glares at Vesti, saying, “...What are you implying?” Lauren quickly explains, “I assure you, any questions either of us ask are merely to get more information. If we wished to accuse you, we’d do so openly.” Looking away, Sammy responds, “Fine, I get it... I came to visit my wife at noon, during my lunch break... like I do every day. I talked to her for a bit, and when I was done, I left. I didn’t need to be back at my job until 1:30, so I waited in the lobby until it was time to leave... Then I got stuck here, after... well, you know...” Vesti says, “So, you were just in the lobby the whole time? Did you see anything suspicious?” Sammy replies, “No, not that I recall. Everything seemed fairly normal.” “That figures,” Vesti says, “It doesn’t seem like anything related to the crime happened in the lobby...” Noticing that Lauren appears to be deep in thought about something, Vesti asks, “Is something wrong, Lauren?” Lauren glances at Sammy, and mumbles, “...Don’t worry about it. Let’s continue with the interview for now.” Present: Cammy’s Injury: Sammy Tose“So, uh... What can you tell us about the event that led to Cammy’s injury?” “You two know about that, huh?” Sammy replies, “Well... obviously it’s not an easy story to tell... and I don’t know much more than what the detective told me...” “And what exactly did the detective tell you?” Vesti asks. “He told me the same lies they printed in the newspaper that day,” Sammy shouts, suddenly clenching his fists in anger. “It was all a bunch of complete nonsense about Cammy triggering a blackout and then jumping out a window!” Vesti recoils in surprise at the outburst, as Lauren says, “Still, they had evidence to back their claims... Do you have any evidence suggesting that she didn’t attempt suicide?” “I don’t need evidence!” Sammy replies, “I was her husband! I knew her better than anyone! She wouldn’t have done that! We would’ve worked through it together!” Vesti slowly mumbles, “Uhh... I don’t think that argument would really hold up in a court...” Sammy sighs, shakes his head, and says, “You want evidence? Fine... I have some evidence.” He reaches into a pocket on his suit and pulls out his wallet. Opening it up and reaching inside, he pulls out a small photo and turns it around for Vesti and Lauren. The photo depicts Cammy and Sammy, happily standing together in front of a window. The room looks vaguely familiar to Vesti, and once he notices some of the furniture in the background he recognizes it. The desk in the far-left corner of the room and the flowerbox outside the window appear just as they do in the photo of Aura and Argenta Gold that Vesti saw earlier, which was taken in Argenta’s office. Sammy continues, “If this photo doesn’t show how close the two of us were, then nothing else will... She definitely would have talked to me before attempting something so... drastic...” After a few second of silence, Lauren says, “You must have loved her a lot...” “Of course I did,” Sammy replies. He sighs as another tear forms in his eye. “The last few hours have been really hard... She stopped talking to me a long time ago... but I’m really gonna miss talking to her...” {{Tose Photo added to Evidence}} Talk: Sammy Tose: Favorite ColorHoping to lighten the mood, Vesti asks, “So, Sammy? What’s your favorite color?!” Sammy mumbles, “Dark blue...” “Oh, I didn’t expect that answer,” Vesti replies, “Why?” Sammy lets out a long sigh and says, “That... That was the color of her eyes...” Lauren glares at Vesti, who mumbles, “I, uh... probably should have seen that one coming...” Suddenly, Sammy reaches into his pocket and pulls out an old-looking cell phone. He looks at the screen, frowns, and tries to put it back when Vesti asks, “What’s wrong? Are people sending you texts about what happened?” “I wish...” Sammy answers, “I thought I felt my phone vibrate, but I must have been imagining things... My phone isn’t getting any texts anyway. I forgot, I spilled some stuff on it today, and the screen froze.” He turns it around to show Vesti. Indeed, the screen is frozen, the time reading 12:04 PM. Sammy continues, “It’s quite a shame... I feel like I need to talk to my family at a time like this, but I guess I’ll have to wait until they let me go home...” Vesti replies, “Well... I’m not making any promises... but we’ll try to have this case figured out as soon as we can.” Sammy says, “I think... I think that would help a lot.” {{Sammy’s Phone added to Evidence}} Investigation: Hospital LobbyExamine:There is nothing left to examine!Talk:Sammy ToseThe Day of the IncidentCammy ToseMove:Cammy’s Hospital Room Security Room Storage Closet Argenta’s Office Aura’s Office Present:To Sammy Tose What will you do? Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Oct 27, 2017 18:01:04 GMT -5
I’ll show you a real extremo if you ain’t careful, buddy. Poor Sammy The screen froze just a few minutes after he entered Cammy's room. Ask him more about what happened there. If nothing else I'm curious what he could have spilled on his phone, especially as we didn't find any stains or anything in the room (I think). Emo to the extremo, eh? After asking him that, SOLEMNLY move to Cammy's Hospital room or something. (Response to KamiPanda) Poor POTENTIAL MURDERER YOU MEAN! Ask Sammy what he's done since he arrived at the hospital. Try and establish a timeline. Then consider asking Aura about the insurance details on Cammy's death. If Sammy was to profit from Cammy's murder via some life-insurance bit I wanna know! Now come on! We gotta pin it on this guy! Vesti's future with Argenta depends on this! Also ask Lauren for her thoughts, she seemed to pick up on something. Present Sammy Tose: Sammy’s PhoneVesti asks, “Wait, Sammy... What exactly was spilled on your phone? According to the clock, the screen froze while you were visiting Cammy, right?” “Yeah,” Sammy says, pulling out the phone and gazing at it. “I don’t see how it could be important, but... some of the IV liquid got spilled on it.” “The IV liquid?” Lauren says, “How exactly did IV fluid get spilled on your phone?” Sammy explains, “Well, the doctor who was changing the IVs while I was there... Sorry, I can’t remember her name.” “Do you mean Argenta?” “Yeah, that’s it.” Sammy continues, “Anyway, Argenta was leaving to dispose of the old IV bag or whatever when... I guess she tripped or something, because somehow the contents of the bag ended up on me.” Sammy points to a pocket on the chest area of his suit and says, “I had my phone in this pocket. The suit’s pretty much dried off by now, but obviously the phone isn’t.” “Hmm... That’s interesting,” Vesti says, “...but probably not important.” Talk: Sammy Tose: The Day of the Incident Continued“Sammy...” Lauren asks, “Remember, I’m not accusing you of anything, but could you give us a more detailed account of your actions today? That information could be helpful.” “Well... Uh...” Sammy answers, “There really isn’t much more to say. I arrived at sometime around 11:55 and went straight to Cammy’s room. I stayed with her for maybe five or ten minutes, then I went back down to the lobby and waited there.” Sighing, he continues. “I wish I had stayed up there longer, but... how could I have known it’d be the last time I’d see her?” Glancing at her notes, Lauren asks, “And you’re sure you didn’t go anywhere else on the way to the lobby?” “...Of course not,” Sammy slowly replies, giving Lauren a skeptical look. “I was only visiting. Going anywhere else would have been trespassing.” “Hmm... I see...” Lauren mumbles. Noticing the same thoughtful look on Lauren’s face from before, Vesti says, “Hey, Lauren, didn’t you say something was bothering you earlier? What was that about?” “Well, I wasn’t sure whether to bring it up or not,” Lauren replies, “...but as a detective, one must thoroughly examine all avenues of the investigation.” “Sammy, you keep insisting that you spent the entire hour in this lobby... but I find that strange...” “What?! Why?” Sammy shouts, “Where else would I have gone?” “I don’t know where you went, but you weren’t here,” Lauren continues, “If you were, we would have seen you when we watched the security cameras in the lobby... but we didn’t see anyone.” “Oh, that’s right!” Vesti shouts, “I definitely didn’t see him in that footage!” Looking flustered, Sammy replies, “W- Well, that doesn’t mean a thing. Maybe I was just out of the camera’s line of sight... or maybe you just couldn’t make me out. I don’t exactly stand out in a crowd.” Lauren sighs and mumbles, “Well... I suppose you’re right... We can’t exactly prove you wer-” “Wait, I got it!” Vesti shouts, “Hey, Sammy, I have a quick question for you. Are you sure nothing strange happened in the lobby while you were there?” Sammy crosses his arms and glares at Vesti, saying, “Of course I’m sure. Nothing of any relevance happened in this lobby.” “Oh, really?” Vesti asks, “I’d think an old man running in and screaming about bloody murder would be at least somehow relevant...” Sammy fiddles with his glasses and looks out the window, saying, “...What.” “It’s fairly simple, actually,” Vesti continues, “At around 12:45, Dustin Panne, the hospital’s janitor, burst into the lobby and reported the murder rather loudly. If you were in the lobby the whole time like you say you were, then why didn’t you see that?” At this, Sammy turns to face the window. He stands silently, his arms crossed and his eyes closed. Eventually, he finally snaps, “I think the two of you should leave.” Lauren coldly replies, “Perhaps first you should explain yourself...” “There’s nothing to explain,” Sammy says, “Perhaps I was simply in the bathroom when the body was discovered.” “You can’t seriously expect us to believe that!” Vesti shouts. “It doesn’t matter if you do or don’t,” Sammy continues. “You can’t prove I’m lying. And unless this discussion was recorded, you couldn’t even prove to a court that I didn’t mention Dustin discovering the body.” Lauren responds, “The security footage is all the proof we need.” “I’ve already told you why that footage is useless.” Sammy turns back to the two detectives and pushes up his glasses, causing the glare on the lenses to obscure his eyes. He calmly continues, “Frankly, I find all of this insensitive. In case you’ve forgotten, my wife was just killed, and I’ve barely had time to grieve. Perhaps instead of wasting both of our time with pointless questions, you two should actually be trying to find the creep who killed her.” Sammy turns, spits out a quick “Good luck”, and walks off to the adjoining urgent care facility, leaving Vesti and Lauren standing silently in the lobby. Move: Cammy’s Hospital RoomEventually, Vesti finally says, “Well, I guess we should head back to the crime scene... Wouldn’t want to keep Ann waiting, after all...” Lauren mumbles, “You’re right... Let’s go.” With that, the two return to Cammy’s hospital room, too deep in thought to say much else. Date: Tuesday, January 5th, 2016. Time: 3:35 PM. Location: Gold Clinic, Cammy’s Hospital Room.When Vesti and Lauren enter the crime scene, they find it a lot less crowded than it seemed to be on the security footage. Only a few policemen are left, and most of them seem to be focused on attempting to open the closet. The second thing they notice is Ann Istheesa, who apparently relocated the wooden stool to the right side of the bed so that she could sit on it. She looks up from the folder of papers she was shuffling through when the two detectives enter and says, “Oh, there you are. You sure took your time getting here, didn’t ya? I swear, you people either come asking for the autopsy before I’ve even looked at the body or you show up five hours after I’ve finished. I mean, I already had to drive all the way over here, you could at least show me the common decency of arriving at a reasonable time.” After Ann seems to have finished with her rant, Vesti replies, “It’s nice to see you too, Ann.” “Yeah, sure, just dismiss all my grievances,” Ann continues, “You’re just like the HR guy back at the station. Everytime I see him and his stupid, self-satisfied grin, I want to put him on my operating table and see how long he’s still smiling.” Vesti asks, “Hey, Lauren, we’ve already done a background check on her, right?” Lauren answers, “I’m pretty sure we’ve done at least five... It might be time for another one...” Ann scoffs and says, “Yeah, yeah, laugh it up. But remember, your entire case relies on me. I’ve got the autopsy report, and I even found something interesting that you all missed out on, apparently. If you want the info, you’d better show me some respect first!” “Yeah, alright,” Vesti says, “Let’s see what you found...” Investigation: Cammy’s Hospital RoomExamine:Empty Space Where the Janitorial Cart Used to Be Talk:Ann IstheesaAutopsy Report Something Interesting Move:Security Room Hospital Lobby Storage Closet Argenta’s Office Aura’s Office Present:To Ann Istheesa What will you do? Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242I know I used the same song twice in a row leave me alone
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Oct 27, 2017 19:03:14 GMT -5
Present badge and ask favorite color again. Then talk about something interesting.
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Post by Planetbox on Nov 3, 2017 18:53:57 GMT -5
IS THAT A THREAT SOLDIER Examine the empty space where the janitorial cart used to be. Grieves over it for 2 hours and conduct a funeral for it properly. Also talk to Anne about the autopsy report. *Ann Well, Sammy totally isn't suspicious at all. Nope. IV fluid stuff all seems to line up, though. Ask Ann if she knows anything about our pal Percy. Show Ann respect by formally displaying my Police Badge Present: Police Badge: Ann Istheesa“You want respect?” Vesti shouts, “Well, I’ll show you respect!” Before Ann can respond, Vesti takes out his police badge and, with great flourish, displays it to the coroner. Ann gives Vesti an annoyed glare and says, “Don’t be ridiculous!” Ann points at him and continues, “ That is downright disrespectful! When I was young, you didn’t see kids shoving things into their elders’ faces after they returned home from a long day of honest work!” Vesti replies, “...I mean, I’d hardly consider myself a kid.” “Oh, right. I apologize. It’s hard to tell, considering how much you act like one,” Ann says, “Still maybe you’re right... I shouldn’t be judging you based on how people used to act... Besides, I didn’t get the respect I deserved back then either... That aside, put away your stupid badge.” Vesti quickly puts it away, without quite as much flourish. Examine: Empty Space Where the Janitorial Cart Used to BeVesti takes a look at the empty space at the foot of the bed, right next to Ann’s cart of surgical tools. Vesti remembers that the janitorial cart was sitting at that spot the last time he was at crime scene. Recalling the security footage, Vesti asks, “Hey, Ann, remember that janitor’s cart that used to be over here?” Looking through some documents, Ann says, “Yeah, what about it?” Vesti quickly points toward the entrance and says, “Were you the one who had it moved out into the hallway?” Ann explains, “Yeah. I needed my tools for the autopsy, and there wasn’t enough room for two carts in here. Without me tripping every time I examined the body from a different angle, that is...” Lauren asks, “Are you aware that an unknown party stole that janitorial cart after you had it moved outside?” “...No, I was not,” Ann replies, still focusing on her documents. “But that’s hardly my problem.” Ann points to Cammy's body and says, “ She’s my problem. If those bozos can’t keep track of a janitor’s cart then it’s hardly my fault. Take any issues you’ve got about that up with them.” Lauren asks, “Do you remember the name of the officer you assigned that task too?” “Don’t know, don’t care,” Ann says. “Now, if you don’t mind, could we move along to the stuff I actually came here for?” Talk: Ann Istheesa: Something Interesting“Alright, fine,” Vesti says, “First, could you tell us about this ‘interesting thing’ you found?” “Sure. It’s a piece of evidence that you guys apparently didn’t run into.” She grabs an evidence bag from the nightstand next to Cammy’s bed and holds it up in front of her. Inside is a clear plastic syringe. Ann explains, “I found this shoved under the pillow on Cammy’s bed. It looks like the same kind of thing they’ve got everywhere in this hospital.” Lauren takes the bag from Ann and starts examining the syringe inside closely. “...I’m not surprised we didn’t find this. Neither of us checked underneath the pillow.” Ann replies, “That figures. I only checked down there because I was checking for wounds on the back of the victim’s head. I wouldn’t say a syringe is particularly out of place in a hospital, but it’s definitely suspicious that it was shoved under the pillow like that.” Putting away the syringe, Lauren asks, “Did you happen to check under the rest of the sheets while performing the autopsy?” “Yeah, I did,” Ann replies, “That syringe was the only thing I found.” {{Syringe added to Evidence}} Talk: Ann Istheesa: Autopsy ReportVesti asks, “Alright, can we see your autopsy report?” “Geez, finally. I thought you’d never ask. Usually you two are jumping at the chance to get your hands on these things.” Ann puts some of the documents into a folder and then holds it out to Vesti and Lauren. “The only copier in this hospital is four floors down, so I’m afraid you two are gonna have to share.” Vesti takes the folder from Ann and opens it, holding it so that Lauren can see it as well. Written in the report is, “Victim: Cammy Tose. (Age 34) Cause of Death: Single stab wound to chest. Weapon unknown. Time of Death: Approximately 12:30. Other Notes: One slash wound is present on each of the victim’s legs. Both were dealt shortly after death. A small needle wound is present on the victim’s arm. Toxicology revealed some kind of anesthetic in the victim’s bloodstream.” “Anesthetic?” Lauren asks as she finishes reading the report. “Why would anesthetic be in a comatose patient’s body?” “I don’t know; I’m just the coroner,” Ann replies, shrugging. “You guys get to figure that one out...” “Honestly, I’m more curious about this time of death,” Vesti says, “How’d you narrow it down to something so specific?” “I used this,” Ann says, pointing to the IV bag next to her. “It seems like the IV drip was dislodged during the murder, so we can use the amount of fluid left in the bag, along with some math, to determine when the bag stopped dripping. Luckily, some of the officers here already knew the info I needed to figure that out, so I was able to narrow down the time of death by a lot. ...You’re welcome.” “Wait, that doesn’t make any sense!” Vesti shouts, “We did the same thing earlier and got a time of death about fifteen minutes later!” “I dunno, maybe I’m just better at math since I went through medical school,” Ann says, waving her hand dismissively. “All I know is that there’s approximately thirty or thirty-five minutes worth of fluid in that IV bag. I even double-checked my math and measurements, so make of that what you will.” “Hmm... That’s strange...” Vesti mumbles, “...I wonder why we got that mixed up.” Lauren looks at Vesti, sighs, and silently writes something in her notebook. {{Autopsy Report added to Evidence}} {{IV Bag updated in Evidence}} Investigation: Cammy’s Hospital RoomExamine:There’s nothing new here.Talk:Ann IstheesaAutopsy ReportSomething InterestingMove:Security Room Hospital Lobby Storage Closet Argenta’s Office Aura’s Office Present:To Ann Istheesa What will you do? Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Nov 3, 2017 23:48:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure... should we move somewhere?
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Post by Planetbox on Nov 10, 2017 11:22:55 GMT -5
Man, I’ve been in a bit of a rut lately when it comes to these pre-update quips. Isn't it because Argenta told us the bag held more fluid than that? Definitely sounds suspicious. I guess Ann doesn't know anything about Percy. If there's nothing else to do here, confronting Argenta might be a good idea. Realising that the part of my consciousness who wants to take Argenta out may come at any second, sashay to her office and politely ask her to answer a few questions... Over a cup of tea Nnnngh....ask Lauren about the department policy on dating criminals. And maybe present the stopped watch to Ann. Perhaps she can tell us what was spilled on it. Present: Ann Istheesa: Percy GrahamVesti asks, “Ann, have you met anyone by the name of Percy Graham recently?” In a dull monotone, Ann replies, “You mean Mr. ‘I use video games to mask my anger management problems’?” “Uh, yeah...” Vesti says, “That sounds about right.” Ann grumbles in annoyance and continues, “Yep, I’ve been running into him very often recently. For awhile, I even thought he was a reasonable human being, and I was astounded at how easily he could merge his hobbies with his job... Apparently I was wrong about that first part.” “What makes you say that?” Lauren asks. “Well, normally he just shows up, takes the autopsy, and goes on his merry way,” Ann explains, “...but on one case a few months back, my report contradicted his running theory, and he went totally insane. He claimed that I had falsified the report or somethin’ and was no worse than the criminal he was trying to catch. Of course, I told him to stuff it, and that was that. I dunno what happened with the rest of the case, cause after that experience I chose to take the rest of the day off.” Vesti mumbles, “Wow... Sounds like that guy has some serious problems...” “Hey, at least he knows when to show up for the autopsy report,” Ann remarks, “It’s been years, and you lot still haven’t worked that one out.” Vesti mumbles, “...Then again, I suppose we all have serious problems in Ann’s eyes...” Suddenly, Vesti’s phone buzzes, indicating an incoming call. Vesti excuses himself from the conversation and answers it. A familiar voice speaks on the other end. “Hello, Vesti. I’ve finished my investigation, and I think I have this case worked out. Meet me in the main office, so we can get this nonsense over with.” “Wait, Percy? Is that you?” Vesti asks, “How did you even get this number?” Percy answers, “Some guy gave it to me.” “Seriously, again?!” Vesti shouts, “I swear, that guy is gonna compromise the case soon with all this info he’s handing out!” “I don’t have time for your pointless comedy routine,” Percy snaps. “Nor do I have the authority to make arrests, so get up here and do your job.” Vesti hears a click as the prosecutor hangs up. Once Vesti puts the phone away, Ann says, “So, that was Percy callin’, huh? Well, well, speak of the devil...” Lauren asks, “What did he want, anyway?” Vesti replies, “Apparently he finished his investigation, and now he’s just a little too excited about getting this case over with.” Vesti crosses his arms and mumbles, “I swear, whatever happened to performing thorough investigations...” “Well, it’s alright...” Lauren replies, “We’ve probably found all the evidence there is to find by now, anyway.” “Well, other than the murder weapon,” Vesti replies. “But you’re right... We should probably just get going.” “Don’t expect me to come along,” Ann remarks. “I’d prefer to never see that creep again, if I had a choice.” “That’s fine, your presence won’t be necessary,” Lauren continues, “...But it might be a good idea to bring Argenta along...” Vesti shouts, “So I can impress her when I totally destroy Percy’s arguments, right?” Lauren adds, “...Her testimony could be relevant to the case... but I suppose that works too...” Vesti shouts, “Either way, I don’t wanna see what Percy’ll do if we leave him alone over there, so let’s get going. To the main office!” Vesti and Lauren walk out of the crime scene and head for the elevator. Once they’re gone, Ann lets out a sigh of relief and makes preparations to leave herself, hoping that the rest of the day will be fairly relaxing. To be continued...Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Nov 16, 2017 18:50:39 GMT -5
You successfully break through the “To be continued” screen, unlocking the next part a day early! Try to break past the to be continued screen to the next part. Look up department policy on dating criminals on the way to the next scene....just in case. Ask Vesti what his favourite colour is. Also present the police badge to him. Notice the 'Board Index' button above the thread and explore the other threads on CR. Date: Tuesday, January 5th, 2016. Time: 3:50 PM. Location: Gold Clinic, Aura Gold’s Office.When Vesti, Lauren, and Argenta enter the main office, it’s still a complete mess. This isn’t a surprise for Vesti or Lauren, but it is a surprise for Argenta, who shouts, “Whoa! Aura, what happened here?!” Standing next to her desk and writing something on her clipboard, Aura replies, “Someone ransacked my office while I was operating... I’ve already talked about this subject at length, so ask those two detectives if you wish to know more.” “I don’t think that’s important right now,” Vesti says. “I’d rather know what the heck Percy’s doing at your desk.” Indeed, Percy Graham is sitting in the chair behind Argenta’s desk, playing his 3DS as usual. Vesti quickly looks around the room and notices Dustin Panne standing by the filing cabinets, looking annoyed. He says, “I don’t know what he’s doing. She just got up for a few seconds, and Percy went and stole it.” Aura adds, “Believe me, I’ll be writing a substantial report on his actions today.” “Shut up!” Percy shouts, “This is an important scene, and I can’t hear the dialogue over all your yammering!” “Wow, this is rich,” Dustin mumbles, “He drags all of us over here, and now he’s too busy with his stupid video games to get to the point.” Lauren says, “Not to mention he interrupted our investigation. I had assumed he’d have a good reason for that.” Percy responds, “Y’know, there’s only two words in ‘shut up.’ I had assumed you all had them both figured out, but look where we are now.” Aura writes furiously on her clipboard and says, “Subject quickly resorts to insults to justify his poor choices...” Argenta shouts, “C’mon, Percy, stop being so grumpy! Just get this case over with, and you can play that thing all you want later!” “Fine!” Percy shouts, as he slams his 3DS shut. He stands up and continues, “But you lot need to quit it with the patronizing comments. I’m already ticked off about all the time I wasted on that pointless investigation, so I’m not gonna put up with any of the badge-presenting tomfoolery you’re all used to!” “I’d hardly call that investigation useless,” Vesti says, “Unless you’re still planning on blaming Dustin for all this.” “Of course I am!” Percy replies, “I didn’t find a single piece of evidence that backed up your aimless, meandering logic!” Dustin mumbles, “What a day, huh? First I find a body, then my cart gets stolen, and now this guy’s intent on sending me to the slammer.” Percy slams his hand on the desk and shouts, “Shut up! I don’t need to hear from the likes of you! You’re nothing but a dirty criminal, and I’ll see to it that you get locked up once and for all!” Argument: Why I’m Still RightPercy: In my opinion, this entire investigation was pointless, as Dustin is still the only suspect. Percy: There is no proof regarding a possible second murder weapon... Percy: ...as the unusual order of the victim's wounds can be sufficiently explained through other means. Percy: That leaves a single murder weapon covered in Dustin’s fingerprints... Percy: ...a crime scene that he was standing in when the murder took place... Percy: ...and a possible motive hidden in Dustin’s interaction with the victim years ago. Percy: I believe there is no reason to further discuss this case. (It seems like Percy isn’t quite willing to admit he’s wrong yet. That’s fine. I’m sure that I’ve picked up some evidence during my investigation that will contradict his accusations. I just have to present it!)Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Nov 16, 2017 19:49:25 GMT -5
Wow this guy is a real dingaling. Does he have a vendetta against janitors or something? Press that last statement with a look as if to say "really? you're still on this?". But for real, maybe present autopsy at statement 3? Or at statement 5 along with the security footage, since he didn't go in there until 12:45.
help I forget how these things work
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Post by Planetbox on Nov 24, 2017 20:10:09 GMT -5
This is a time of giving thanks... but not to double posts. Er... present Autopsy Report and/or Security Footage (probably the latter) at statement 5, "...a crime scene that he was standing in when the murder took place..." He didn't enter the scene until 12:45, which is I think sufficiently far from the estimated time of death of 12:30? Along with that, press statement three. There can be a way you can explain all of that, but is it logical? Also ask whether the entire room was searched thoroughly and anything resembling a weapon was tested for blood. What about the syringe? Is there any way to check whether it was injected or not? Press statement 6 as well. Was it mentioned that he even interacted with Cammy back then? If all else fails then present the badge and get penalised. I heard that challenge! Present the police badge anyway! Then perhaps he'll know how we feel when he constantly plays his 3DS around us. I'm also in favour of pressing statement 6. I don't think we had the chance to ask Dustin about that and it could be useful. Then assuming the contradiction with the autopsy report pans out, strike a badass Starsky and Hutch-style pose with Argenta (Really Lauren is more appropriate but I don't think she's got the whimsy in her to play along) Kind of forgot about pressing, oops. Edit:btw Planetbox some typos in the evidence list {Quote: (from me, I'm too lazy to parse these) No one else that Dustin recognizes in ever in the lobby.} Also in Ann's profile where 'Gender' should be written is 'Sex'. I know they mean the same thing but like my mom says* consistency is key. *this is a lie my mom never says that Anyway... {Southern Corn wrote: What about the syringe? Is there any way to check whether it was injected or not?} Never mind this, this was apparently some sort of anesthetic. Though it brings up a question- why would you need to inject something like that into someone who's comatose? Unless...Cammy had woken up from her deep sleep shortly before she was killed. Maybe that's why she was murdered! She probably knew something the culprit didn't want out! The only thing that would fit is the blackout from five years prior. And you know...wait a second. I know who the killer is! {KamiPanda wrote: Kind of forgot about pressing, oops.} ...I'm pressing this. Kami...you were delighted to join us in this case once it started. We started to have fun, we got along, and made jokes. But most importantly...you had a tendency to press all the testimonies. And now you forget? It seems ...odd. Almost as if you were afraid to press, as if it would incriminate you. Now, we've been friends for a while. We even went to see the Emoji Movie together. So we know each other's names. And to be honest, I thought it strange when I saw yours in this case. But...I've put it all together now. Let's start from the beginning. You were a worker in this exact hospital five years ago and was the one who caused the blackout, killing four patients. While I can't imagine your motive for doing so, I think it might have had something to do with one of the patients. Then you noticed Cammy, and that's when you sprung into action. You knocked her out, thinking her dead, and left a suicide note in her office. But she turned out to be alive, though barely, much to your displeasure. But now things were out of your hands. Then you quit the hospital to try and forget everything. But five years later, you decided to go check back up on her to make sure she wasn't awake. You went into her room sneakily and breathed a sigh of relief as you saw her comatose body lie on your bed. But just as you were leaving, you noticed her snap awake. Realising what information she could have possibly possessed, you injected her with the syringe to put her back to sleep used a dagger that you had brought with you to finish her off. Then you did the weird stuff with the wounds because idk you like messing with us. Then after everything was finished you jumped out of the window and flew away because you're magical like that. Then you went back into the hospital and used your elite powers to hack the security camera footage and remove yourself entering Cammy's room. Finally, as everything was finished, you decided to join us here under the guise of wanting to play along with us when in reality, your goal was to deceive and delude us into thinking that Argenta was the killer. But unfortunately for you, your plan has just backfired! This is the truth of this case...isn't it, KamiPanda? Or should I say....Ray Seppson? (Three sprites of Damon Gant feverishly clapping, I don't know how well embedding these into the actual quote would work.) {Southern Corn wrote: Also in Ann's profile where 'Gender' should be written is 'Sex'. I know they mean the same thing but like my mom says* consistency is key.} Heads up SoCo for this in itself is an incorrect! Sex and Gender are different! Sex is biological and determined from your genitalia. Gender is a social construct and is what you identify as in your day to day life. Oh so Ann doesn't identify as anything good to know I guess. Edit: yo pb m8 you may think you have the upper hand but I'll get my revenge on you in the best way I can By making you double post Edit 2: Electric Boogaloo: yeah you really should've huh {Southern Corn wrote: Oh so Ann doesn't identify as anything good to know I guess.} 2 l8 m8, I already fixed it so now you look like a goof lol EDIT: I shoulda seen this one coming tbh Present: Police Badge: Statement 1Hoping to get back at Percy for his annoying accusations, Vesti reaches into his pocket and mumbles, “For my first piece of evidence, I’d like to present... THIS!” He pulls out his police badge and proudly displays it to Percy. Argenta laughs in amusement, but Percy doesn’t look particularly pleased. His fists are clenched and his eye is twitching. Eventually, he shouts, “LISTEN UP, YOU LITTLE-” Suddenly, the double doors behind you swing open, and someone charges into the room, interrupting Percy before he can begin his tirade. Vesti turns around and sees his sister Lita Gates looking around the room. She shouts, “Oh, hey guys, what’s goin’ on here?” Vesti smiles and replies, “Hey, Lita! We’re just having a nice, civilized discussion about who really committed this murder.” He looks back at Percy and asks, “Right, Percy?” Percy, who’s taking deep breaths to calm himself down, ignores Vesti and says, “...Lita, what are you doing here?” “Oh, I’ve just been doing the whole investigation shebang,” Lita explains, “...and I saw these huge doors and was wondering what was on the other side of them. Then, I found all you guys here!” She waves at everyone in the room. “Hi, everybody!” Percy sighs and mumbles, “Whatever... Now, back to what I was saying...” Press: Statement 3“Sure, there are other ways to explain those leg wounds,” Vesti says, “But are they logical?” Percy answers, “They don’t have to be. Criminal aren’t always logical. Many crimes I’ve encountered were merely a result of unrestrained emotions.” Vesti replies, “I dunno... Most of the criminals I’ve run into were fairly logical in their crimes.” “Maybe they just looked more so in comparison to you,” Percy says, “Besides, every explanation I’ve presented, while perhaps not logical, is at least reasonable. Unless you can prove definitively that a second murder weapon existed, there is no reason to accept that explanation over any other.” “Well...” Vesti asks, “Did we check any sharp objects at the crime scene for blood? Maybe the real murder weapon was hidden at the crime scene!” Lauren adds, “Yes, I checked a few objects during the initial investigation and after Percy left, but I didn’t find anything... I suppose I never checked the syringe, but you couldn’t stab someone to death with that.” “Exactly,” Percy says, “And you clearly didn’t find another weapon elsewhere, or you would have presented it by now. So, moving on...” Press: Statement 6Vesti asks, “About that... Dustin, did you ever interact with Cammy back then?” Dustin replies, “Not really. Since we were both doctors, we ran into each other occasionally and sometimes got to talking. However, I wouldn’t say I knew her that well...” Percy scoffs and remarks, “That’s really convenient... Sounds like the perfect excuse for a killer. At this point, there’s absolutely no reason to believe a thing you say!” Dustin continues, “...but that guy’s not gonna believe it, as usual.” Aura jots something down on her clipboard and mumbles, “Subject’s stubbornness is matched only by his suppressed rage.” Lita shouts, “Hey, Percy, not everyone’s an insane killing machine! This is, like, the fifth time I’ve had to tell you that!” “I thought this was a hospital, not a funhouse,” Percy remarks, “Perhaps if you want to be treated seriously, you should stop mocking me for actually trying to catch the criminal here...” Present: Autopsy Report: Statement 5“Oh, we’re both trying our hardest here,” Vesti replies, “The problem is, one of us is wrong... and I have proof!” “Really, now?” Percy mumbles, “Did you actually find something to back up your wild speculations?” “No, but I found something to disprove yours,” Vesti responds, “Something that you were apparently too bent on arresting Dustin to notice: the autopsy report!” “What are you talking about?” Percy responds, “The cause of death aligns with everything I’ve said so far.” “Not the cause of death, the time of death,” Vesti explains. Pulling out the autopsy report, he reads, “According to this document, Cammy was killed at approximately 12:30... A full fifteen minutes before Dustin arrived on the scene!” Percy glares at you skeptically, but takes out his own copy of the report to double-check. His eyes widen in shock as he reads it. Putting it away, he shouts, “What? But- But that doesn’t help either of us! Your original theory called for a murder at 12:45. W- Were you lying about knowing the time of death back then?!” “No, of course not!” Vesti replies, “We got the previous time of death, the incorrect one, from the IV bag... but that’s also where Ann got this new one... I guess we just messed up!” Vesti shrugs. “Wh- What!” Percy shouts, “You ‘messed up’? This is a murder inquiry! ...I want whoever made those calculations FIRED!” Vesti shakes his head and replies, “Well, I can’t really remember who it was... It’s probably not an important detail anyway.” “No,” Lauren suddenly remarks, “I personally think this detail could be vital...” Lauren glares gravely at Vesti and continues, “Think carefully... Are you sure you don’t remember who did those calculations?” “Well, it seems kinda rude to call them out on it,” Vesti mumbles, “But... I think it was......” Who originally calculated the time of death?PRESENT a profile. Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Nov 25, 2017 14:26:28 GMT -5
Was it Dustin Panne...?
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Post by Planetbox on Dec 1, 2017 19:36:00 GMT -5
Oh sweet SC did my update for me does that mean I don’t have to write one?? Suck it pb ...No. I know who you want to present, but I refuse to do it. But...I have to do something before Ray gets here! Argh... Wait a second! I've got it! What if the Argenta we saw at the start...and the one we've known the whole time... Ray, I remember your face very well, even after all this time. I remember when we were looking for each other at our meeting spot. The reason I didn't come to you...is because you looked more feminine than I thought you would be. [TAKE THAT! bubble thing in the post down there] Jump out at 'Argenta' and pull off her hair to reveal the real criminal of this case, Ray Seppson! This is the end, my friend! There's no running away! I know now that you also killed Argenta all those years ago as she knew something vital about the blackout, threw the body in a lake after charring the corpse, then pretended to leave the hospital while really taking her place...for five years! Unluckily for you, you decided to revert back to your original self when meeting me, and that's your undoing! Handcuff Ray while explaining his plan to him. After he breaks down, take him away and laugh at Percy for doubting me. Man, this was an interesting case this time, you guys. I can't wait for when case 4 starts already. I half expected Lita to burst through the door and go "OH ARE WE ALL PRESENTING BADGES?" And then bust out here as well. I suppose the Starsky and Hutch pose wouldn't have worked too well in face of this right now but wasn't it Argenta who gave us the original time? Technically Chronos Krate told us the time, so present his profile! Though I am surprised we're pointing out Argenta's suspicion this early on. It was Argenta Gold who gave us the original time of death. So, select her profile. Present: Argenta GoldVesti mumbles, “It was... Argenta, wasn’t it?” “Hmm?” Argenta looks around the room curiously at the sound of her name. “What did I do?” “Back at the beginning of the investigation,” Vesti explains, turning to Argenta. “You calculated the time of death based on the IV fluid, right?” “Oh... Yeah, that,” Argenta replies, laughing awkwardly. “I, uh... I guess I just did the numbers wrong... Sorry!” “Well,” Vesti replies, “That seems reasonable... I mean, you did just see a body, after all! You probably weren’t thinking straight!” Vesti looks at Lauren, who doesn’t look particularly convinced. Turning his attention back to Percy, he shouts, “A- Anyway... The autopsy report proves that the victim was killed fifteen minutes before Dustin arrived on the scene, which the security footage corroborates. There is no way that Dustin could have committe-” “Shut up!” Percy shouts, slamming his hand on Aura’s desk. His eyes are shut, and he seems to be thinking carefully. An uncertain silence fills the room, but the unease is only deepened when Percy mumbles, “I understand now... The depravity lying hidden behind this case...” Percy stands up, turns to face Dustin, and says, “Mr. Panne, I apologize for my earlier actions. I was deceived, as we all have been...” Dustin replies, “I’d be more willing to forgive you if you weren’t still glowering at me...” Lita adds, “Besides, it looks like the only person who got deceived here was YOU!” “Yes, yes, thanks for your input,” Percy continues, “Now, as I was saying... The true killer clearly murdered Cammy at 12:30, then used Dustin’s screwdriver to frame him for the crime...” “Oh, I see,” Vesti interjects, “First you stubbornly refused to accept that anyone other than Dustin did this, now you’re gonna randomly change your mind and steal my own logic?” “This is a murder investigation, not a competition!” Percy snaps. “Besides, the circumstances have changed. Before, Dustin was the only viable suspect. Now we have proof that Dustin is innocent, as well as something we didn’t have before... another suspect. Someone who was in the perfect position to commit this murder, and who even committed a heinous act of deceit in order to shift the blame...” Aura taps her pen on her clipboard to get Percy’s attention, glares at him, and says, “I would advise you to think very carefully about your next choice of words...” Percy scoffs, turns away from her, and continues, “The true killer in this case is Argenta Gold. That’s all.” Argenta shouts, “Wh- What?!” Aura shakes her head and says, “You’re making a mistake, Percy. Argenta is not the type to commit murder. Surely your limited interactions with her would be enough to tell you that.” “As long as I’m basing my deductions on evidence rather than emotions,” Percy responds, “I can’t be the one making the mistake here.” Vesti shouts, “What evidence?! It sounds like you’re just throwing around random accusations again!” “It sounds like you’re letting your emotions cloud your judgements again.” Percy says, “But if you won’t listen to me, perhaps you’ll listen to your partner there... It seems like she’s already figured it out.” “Wh- What?” Vesti turns to Lauren and shouts, “Lauren? D- Don’t tell me you think she did it too!” Lauren turns away, fists clenched, and sighs. “As detectives, we must explore every avenue of this case... Percy, explain yourself.” “Gladly,” Percy replies, “This crime is actually fairly simple in its execution. We were merely delayed because of the murderer’s deceitful tactics. Now, I’ll explain how the crime was committed.” Vesti glances over at Argenta, whose face seems to have turned pale. The sight is fairly disturbing compared to her usual vigor. Vesti turns back to Percy with a newfound determination. Suddenly, Lita Gates remarks, “Oh boy, now this case is getting INTERESTING!” Percy glares at her, and then he continues with his explanation. Argument: A New SuspectPercy: Judging by the IV Bag, the victim was killed about fifteen minutes before we initially suspected. Percy: This puts the time of death at or after 12:30... Percy: ...and the only person at the crime scene at this time was Argenta Gold. Percy: She stabbed the victim with an unknown weapon, left through the front door, and walked to the 5th floor supply closet. Percy: Confident that the janitor would find the body, she set out to frame him using the technique we discussed previously... Percy: ...and later, she tricked us into thinking the murder happened while Dustin was in the room. Percy: As for the motive... the two used to be colleagues. I’m sure we can figure something out. (I hate to think about it, but could Argenta really have done it? ...I guess that's what I have to figure out.)Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Dec 1, 2017 20:04:48 GMT -5
Maybe press statement 3? Also if Planet posts responses from here at the top of the updates at the other forum HELLO OVER THERE.
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Post by Planetbox on Dec 9, 2017 18:07:30 GMT -5
Sorry I’m late, I’m really bad at being productive on snow days. I don't think Agrenta Gold could have done it. She couldn't frame Dustin because there's evidence that proves that she was somewhere else at the time the framing job was done. And the evidence is... The security footage! So, Agrenta Gold entered the victim's room at 12:25. She left 7 minutes later... Which would be 12:32, two minutes after the murder. The security footage proves that she actually went straight to the lobby and talked with Vesti Gates from 12:40 to 12:50 when Dustin Panne ran into the lobby, screaming about finding a dead body. During the timeframe of 12:45-12:50... Argenta Gold was talking with Vesti Gates in the lobby while the framing job was being committed in the victim's room. Is that not all? Well, here's something else! The other evidence is Vesti Gates' testimony. Argenta Gold was with Vesti Gates from 12:40 to when they arrived at the crime scene. Which means the framer must be someone else! While we're at it.... Press Statement 7. Wait a minute! Argenta Gold and Dustin Panne used to be colleagues?! What make you think that? lol ur welcome In all seriousness though, I had a feeling that Argenta would probably be innocent. Good for you, Pierre! Also, Hanzo, I think they mean Argenta and Cammy being coworkers, not Argenta and Dustin XD Though I think they all were coworkers back then. Though if Argenta isn't the killer, that really only leaves Sammy as the killer. And I gotta be honest with you guys...I knew there was something to him. Though that picture with Argenta's hair dyed brown seems like a strange piece of evidence but whatever. Anyway, I'm rambling. Hanzo pretty much did my work for me already. Would give a new reason for Sammy visiting every day. In doing so he'd be ready if she ever showed signs of waking. But yeah, for now all I can really say is, go with Hanzo's answer. Seems right to me. Reassure Argenta with a confident smile that she shouldn't worry and we'll get to the bottom of this then go for that long-delayed coffee. Then remind myself that we know Argenta and Dustin used to work together since he used to be a doctor here. But press his last statement anyway. His motive comment wouldn't stand up at all and I'll at least need some kinda speculation from him on why she would attack Cammy. Press: Statement 3Vesti asks, “How can you be certain that Argenta was the only person at the crime scene?” “I’m sure you’ve seen the security video that was filmed outside the crime scene. It clearly shows Argenta enter Cammy’s hospital room at 12:25 and leave at 12:32. That means Argenta was the only person in the room when Cammy was murdered.” “N- Not necessarily!” Vesti replies, “Maybe the real killer climbed in through the window during that time frame and murdered her then!” Percy shakes his head and says, “Don’t be ridiculous... No one here would have had the stealth to stab Cammy within a foot of Argenta without her noticing. Besides, why else would Argenta lie about the time of death than to cover for herself?” “I didn’t lie!” Argenta interjects, “I was just m- mistaken! That’s all!” Percy turns to Argenta and replies, “If you really were simply mistaken, please prove it with evidence.” “Wha- How the heck am I supposed to prove that?!” “Exactly,” Percy says, “You can’t prove that. If you want to defend yourself, you can’t just throw around pointless remarks and hope it’ll all work out in the end! You need actual evidence!” Vesti sighs, turns to Argenta, and says, “Don’t worry, Argenta. I’ll get this sorted out.” “O- Okay...” Argenta replies, not seeming significantly confident. Press: Statement 7“What kinda reasoning is that?” Vesti shouts, “‘Argenta worked with the victim, so she probably had some kinda motive?’ You can’t honestly expect that to hold up in a court of law!” “We’re not in a court of law,” Percy replies, “I only expect you to do your job and arrest a suspect for once. We already have evidence of her guilt. Is it too much to ask that we arrest her now so she can’t interfere with the investigation again, and then conduct another formal investigation regarding her motive later?” Vesti replies, “I’m not gonna make an arrest if we don’t have a motive better than, ‘Eh, I’ll get to it later.’” “Fine!” Percy shouts, slamming his hand on Aura’s desk. “You want a motive? Here you go: Argenta was the one who attacked Cammy five years ago because she wanted her office space, then she waited until today to finish her off in order to pass the incidents off as unrelated. Is that good enough?” Aura Gold responds, “There’s absolutely no way that my sister would kill someone over office space.” “Do you really think that’s supposed to convince me?” Percy responds. “People kill over mundane things all the time! You can’t apply logic to it! The kind of people who would take another’s life aren’t the kind of people who adhere to our logical principles or morality!” Aura sighs and begins writing in her clipboard, mumbling, “Subject has difficulty figuring out motives due to their exceptional lack of empathy.” “Anyway,” Percy continues, “Let’s get back to the actual logic of the crime.” Present: Statement 6: My Testimony“Speaking of the ‘logic of the crime,’” Vesti says, “...there’s something about your explanation of events that just doesn’t add up!” “Really?” Percy replies, “And what would that be?” “Argenta couldn’t have been at the crime scene at 12:46...” Vesti explains, “Because she was with me from 12:40 ‘till Dustin found the body!” Percy glares skeptically at Vesti and says, “...I hope you’re not just making things up... Frankly, your occupation is not nearly enough to make me blindly trust whatever you say...” “That’s fine,” Vesti replies, “Because I have something that even you will trust... evidence!” Present: Security Footage“Today’s security footage from the lobby confirms everything I’ve just said. Argenta and I can be clearly seen there in the time during which you claim she was trying to frame Dustin!” Vesti shouts, “Unless she was somehow in two places at once, there’s no way she could be the killer!” “Ah, I didn’t think to check the footage from other areas...” Percy mumbles, not particularly fazed by the contradiction. “Hmmm... It looks like Argenta’s plan was a little more complicated than we thought...” “‘A little more complicated?’” Dustin says, “Sounds more like she just didn’t do it.” “Don’t be so hasty in your judgement, Mr. Panne.” Percy replies, “So far, the only thing Vesti’s proved is that Argenta couldn’t have framed you using the plan we previously discussed. The main point of my argument - that Argenta was alone at the crime scene when Cammy was killed and tried to cover up that fact - remains undisputed.” “But Argenta couldn’t have framed Dustin...” Vesti replies, “Which means she must be innocent!” “No, that’s not what it means at all...” Percy says, looking thoughtful. “It actually means that Argenta framed Dustin using a completely different method than we initially assumed...” Percy closes his eyes and contemplates in silence for a few moments, then eventually continues, “...And I think I know what that method was... Allow me to explain.” Argument: The Perfect AlibiPercy: The supply closet contains a basket of several spare blue screwdrivers, just like the ones in Dustin’s cart. Percy: When Argenta entered the hospital room to kill Cammy, she brought one of these spares along with the true murder weapon. Percy: She used both of them to murder Cammy. Percy: Then she washed the weapons, hid them somewhere on her person, and simply walked out of the room. Percy: Finally, she went to the lobby, ensuring that she would be on camera when Dustin found the body. Percy: But her work wasn’t over yet... She followed him to the crime scene to ‘assist in the investigation’. Percy: There, she lied about the IV fluid to change the time of death to one during which she was accounted for... Percy: ...and finally, she discreetly swapped her screwdriver for the one in Dustin’s cart during the busy investigation. Percy: That way, she framed Dustin while giving herself the perfect alibi! (Wh- What... How’d he come up with an explanation like that so fast! ...There’s gotta be a contradiction here... right?)Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Dec 10, 2017 16:48:31 GMT -5
Autopsy Report at Statement 3. Wasn't it a single stab wound?
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Post by Planetbox on Dec 26, 2017 8:53:17 GMT -5
Ahahahaaaa whoops. I got overloaded with homework last week, but this week I just completely forgot so I really have no excuse. Autopsy Report at Statement 3. Wasn't it a single stab wound? While there was a single stab wound to her chest, there were also the slash wounds on his legs. You are correct, only one weapon was used to kill Cammy, but Percy is saying that the second was used for the frame-up job shortly afterward, so he would just point that out immediately. I hope I’m not so out of practice that it looks like this update was written by my guinea pig. Hmm speculating on it now...Sammy's phone stopped at 12:04 when liquid was spilled on it. He was in the room with Argenta at that time. We know the IV was knocked out so perhaps Argenta could shed some light on that visit later? Also call out across time and space to the Gods on the other forum to help me ship VestixArgenta. But strike a dynamic Jojo pose and present the screwdriver at the statement about her placing the screwdriver in the cart. "But fool! You forget that we found no trace of her fingerprints on the screwdriver! And as you can clearly see....*pirouette elegantly on the spot before dramatically pointing at Argenta's elegant refined beautiful hands* Argenta has not been wearing gloves this whole time! Therefore she could not have planted the screwdriver at that point!" Then actually look at Argenta's hands and hope that the gloves are not actually there and are not just an unmentioned character detail. The video footage should confirm that she wasn't wearing gloves earlier....hopefully. Yo Oshalite, how's it going? You should totally join us here, we're having the time of our lives. Tch, the contradiction that Pierre pointed out is good, but there's a simple rebuttal for that. 'She wiped her prints off'. Though Dustin's prints are still on there...hmm. I dunno, man. Also press statement 2 and 3. What do YOU think the real murder weapon was, Perfect Prosecutor Percy? How could she wipe prints off while still placing it in the cart? Also the room was full of investigators so she'd need to be a bloody magician already to have the sleight of hand to pull this feat off, never mind taking time to take out a conspicuous blue screwdriver and clean it. Ah, true. I was mostly thinking how the latter thing could be disproven by saying 'the police are incompetent lol' but I didn't really think about the first thing so there you go XD HELLO! Press the penultimate statement. I'm not sure Argenta ever had the chance to do what Percy claims she did, though I could be mistaken. Vesti took great care to make sure she never actually went fully inside the room during the investigation. Press: Statement 2Vesti asks, “Y’know, Percy, you’ve attempted to explain just about everything except the identity of the true murder weapon.” Percy replies, “Well, we’re in a hospital, so there’s no shortage of sharp objects like scalpels or other surgical implements. Also, if Argenta went out of her way to use two weapons, I doubt she would have left the original lying around somewhere... We may never find it.” “But we can’t just give up like that!” Vesti says. “Finding that weapon could be the key to solving the case!” “I highly doubt it,” Percy responds. “We know the killer wore gloves, so there wouldn’t be any fingerprints left behind. And if the weapon came from this hospital, then it couldn’t be linked definitely to any one person... Either way, it doesn’t matter. We already have plenty of evidence pointing towards Argenta. We don’t need any more...” Press: Statement 7“Honestly, this seems a little far-fetched...” Vesti says. “Do you seriously think Argenta could have swapped those screwdrivers in a room full of investigators?” Percy answers, “I don’t imagine it would have been that difficult. Those investigators were probably distracted by more important things than the janitor’s cart that arrived after the murder... Not to mention that the screwdrivers were within arm’s reach when standing next to the cart. One could probably switch the two behind their back fairly quickly.” Vesti replies, “Alright, fine... but Argenta didn’t even go into the room! She stayed in the entryway the whole time!” “Is that really true?” Percy gestures towards Lauren and says, “Perhaps your friend there can answer that with more certainty.” Vesti turns to Lauren, who sighs and remarks, “...She did go into the room when we asked her to check the IV fluid... and I don’t recall watching her that closely when she walked to and from the IV stand...” Percy says, “She performed both of her deceitful acts at the same time, then...” Vesti shouts, “Y- You can’t prove she did that!” Percy says, “But I can prove that she was at the crime scene when the murder was committed... A fact which you don’t seem to have ever directly disputed...” Present: Blue Screwdriver: Statement 7“You’ve forgotten something again, Percy!” Vesti shouts, “We already checked the screwdriver for fingerprints, and we found those of only one person: Dustin Panne! Argenta’s were nowhere to be found!” Percy gives Vesti an annoyed glare, then raises his finger and opens his mouth to say something, but Vesti interjects, “And don’t you dare say, ‘She wiped them off.’ Dustin’s prints are still there, and there were far too many people in that room for her to clean them off anyway!” “Well, actually-” Percy continues, but Vesti says, “And don’t even think about saying, ‘She was wearing gloves,’ because, if you would just look at her for one second, it is plain to see that she is most certainly not!” Vesti points at Argenta, who, to his dismay, is most certainly wearing blue latex gloves. {{Also it’s not an “unmentioned character detail” because I literally said she had gloves in the first post of this case smh Unless I implied she didn’t later, in which case it’d be my fault, but I don’t think I did.}}The office is filled with a prolonged silence as everyone notices the same thing Vesti already did. Argenta awkwardly waves at everyone, and Percy sighs in annoyance. Lita overenthusiastically shouts, “Oh yeah, nice one, Vesti! Go get ‘em!” “Now, hold on...” Vesti adds before Percy can respond. “Sure, Argenta may be wearing gloves now, but that doesn’t mean she was wearing gloves at the time of the murder investigation. In fact, if we check the security footage, then we’ll know for sure!” Shaking his head, Percy says, “I don’t think that grainy, monochromatic security footage is gonna pick up latex gloves... but it doesn’t matter anyway. The possibility exists that Argenta was wearing gloves, and we can neither prove nor disprove it. So this really isn’t worth discussing...” “Hold on...” Lauren says, “You said she switched one of the screwdrivers in the bag with one from the basket in the storage closet... but in that case, why would the screwdriver have Dustin’s fingerprints on it?” “Hmm... That’s a good point...” Percy remarks, “...It’s possible that Dustin touched those screwdrivers at some point, but we’d need to conduct some tests to be certain...” “...That won’t be necessary,” Dustin says, looking annoyed. “Unfortunately, my fingerprints were probably all over those screwdrivers... I kept the flathead and Phillips-head screwdrivers in the same box, so I sometimes took out the wrong kind when I needed a replacement... Not to mention I probably rifled my hand through that basket numerous times...” “That’s settled then...” Percy says. “I’ll amend my argument, but I don’t believe any substantial changes are necessary.” {{New statement added.}} Argument: The Perfect AlibiPercy: The supply closet contains a basket of several spare blue screwdrivers, just like the ones in Dustin’s cart. Percy: These screwdrivers had Dustin’s fingerprints on them, just like the ones in his cart. Percy: When Argenta entered the hospital room to kill Cammy, she brought one of these spares along with the true murder weapon. Percy: She used both of them to murder Cammy. Percy: Then she washed the weapons, hid them somewhere on her person, and simply walked out of the room. Percy: Finally, she went to the lobby, ensuring that she would be on camera when Dustin found the body. Percy: But her work wasn’t over yet... She followed him to the crime scene to ‘assist in the investigation’. Percy: There, she lied about the IV fluid to change the time of death to one during which she was accounted for... Percy: ...and finally, she discreetly swapped her screwdriver for the one in Dustin’s cart during the busy investigation. Percy: That way, she framed Dustin while giving herself the perfect alibi! (Wh- What... How’d he come up with an explanation like that so fast! ...There’s gotta be a contradiction here... right?)Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Dec 29, 2017 20:03:57 GMT -5
@ Southern Corn: Well I would except Planetbox over here (I think that's what he's called over there?) won't tell anyone what your forum is. He messed up evidence posts here twice and I think I got glimpses of it when trying to check through the files, but then he fixed it by next time I came around. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE, PLANET??????
Haha wow I sure did mess that one up didn't I?
Present the cart that was moved or something during l'investigation at statement 9!
Did I do it? Did I do it right??
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Post by Planetbox on Dec 30, 2017 16:53:36 GMT -5
Yeah she could have just washed them right after the murder But yeah I forgot to mention that part oops Also Dustin’s fingerprints are definitely on the screwdrivers in the basket. I don’t really feel like writing a scene where someone leaves to get a screwdriver, brings it back, then tests it to figure that out, though. If not having that scene bothers you too much you could write it I guess idk insert witty message here Press the penultimate statement again? If she swapped the screwdrivers, then she'd have to have had the one taken from the cart, and would then need to dispose of it at some point. This post brought to you by Phillips™. Um, along with Kami's action, press the second statement. W-we need to be s-sure that there are fingerprints on there, j-just in case. R-right? Nnnngh that was a very merciful put down, thank you. I think I checked her profile but not the first post for said gloves. Right I feel I'm losing track of the necessity for two screwdrivers. If she used both for the murder (even then I don't get why she needed two), what did she do with the other one? Percy's explanation doesn't account for what we did with that one. But also Present Heart Monitor at 6 It was only due to Dustin hearing the Heart Monitor (which is in a contradiction itself as he barely heard it and his cart squeaks up a storm) that he even discovered the body. It's not something that could be planned or accounted for, therefore it makes no sense that she'd stick around in the lobby because she could not know what time the body would be discovered at. There was only one screwdriver involved in the actual murder. He's what Percy's saying. - Argenta went to the hospital room at whenever she showed up on the footage. - Argenta stabbed Cammy with the unknown murder weapon. - Then she slashed Cammy's legs with the screwdriver to get her blood on it. - Finally, during the investigation she switched the bloody screwdriver for one in the cart to make it look like the supposed murder weapon had been there the whole time. - Then she left with the true murder weapon and the other screwdriver and ate them or something idk Also the wheels on Dustin's cart only squeak when they're moving. Dustin stopped the cart outside Cammy's room to get out his mop, so that's when he heard it. Alright but if she was wanting to frame him with blood on the screwdrivers, Percy's testimony says she washed them before putting them in the cart. Press: Statement 7“If Argenta had swapped the screwdrivers as you say...” Vesti says, “then she would’ve had to take the original screwdriver with her, right?” “Indeed,” Percy replies. “I don’t see any problem with that reasoning. Argenta has plenty of pockets that would allow her to hide the screwdriver.” “But where is it now?” Vesti asks, “Without that screwdriver, there’s no proof that your ‘swap’ even happened!” “That doesn’t mean the original screwdriver isn’t out there somewhere,” Percy replies, “We haven’t found the second murder weapon either... Does that mean it doesn’t exist?” Vesti mumbles, “Well, no... I guess not...” Percy explains, “The original screwdriver is most likely in the same place as the original murder weapon, which could be anywhere in this hospital. We have no proof that it exists, but we don’t have proof that it doesn’t either...” Present: Heart Monitor: Statement 6“Hold on...” Vesti says thoughtfully. “When you think about it, this entire idea is pretty hard to believe...” Percy sighs and says, “‘Pretty hard to believe?’ I’ve explained myself many times, so you’re going to need more than that.” “Well, think about it this way...” Vesti turns to Dustin and asks, “Dustin, you found the body after you heard the heart monitor, right?” Dustin answers, “Yeah, that’s how it happened.” Vesti continues, “And the door was shut when you got there right?” “Yeah...” Dustin says, “So I only barely heard the noise... Why are you asking?” Turning back to Percy, Vesti says, “Because... Dustin finding the body was completely unpredictable. It doesn’t make sense that Argenta would hang around in the lobby until it was found when it could have been hours before anyone came across it!” Seemingly unfazed, Percy says, “Perhaps... but the fact that the heart monitor was left on seems to suggest that the killer wanted the body to be found, correct?” “No, not really,” Vesti replies, “If they wanted the body found, they would have left the door at least partially open too.” “Well...” Percy mumbles. “We can’t know for sure how long Argenta intended to stay in the lobby.” “You’ve got to be kidding me!” Vesti shouts, “She had a job to do. She couldn’t just hang out in the hospital lobby for five hours! Just face it, Percy. This devious plan that you claim Argenta came up with was based entirely on a completely random, unpredictable fluke!” Percy crosses his arms, looking more annoyed than anything. Eventually, he says, “...Alright, I’ll give you that. Still, it’s possible that Argenta didn’t plan to switch the screwdrivers but simply capitalized on the opportunity when it arrived.” Aura Gold remarks, “...In that case, Argenta would have stabbed Cammy with a different weapon for absolutely no justifiable reason... Is that really what you’re arguing?” Percy nods and replies, “Of course. As I have said before, most crimes are committed by deranged people, so their actions often lack justification.” Aura glares at Percy then quickly looks at her clipboard, but simply shakes her head without writing anything. Dustin mumbles, “...Are we really sure this guy passed the bar?” “Anyway...” Percy continues, “I cannot yet explain with certainty how Argenta framed the victim while also being seen in the lobby... but Argenta remains our primary suspect, as she was the only person at the crime scene when the murder was committed and tried to cover up that fact. So it appears we have reached a stalemate... Perhaps we should find a new way to think about this case...” Vesti says, “How about ‘what if Argenta isn’t the killer?’” Percy shakes his head and replies, “Well, if you have an explanation for how Argenta could possibly be innocent, then go ahead and present it. Until then, I think it’s safe to assume that she’s guilty.” Lita suddenly charges into the middle of the room and shouts, “What the heck are you two even doing?” Vesti replies, “Uhh... I thought we were trying to figure ou-” “WRONG!” Lita shouts, “You’re yammering on and on over whether Argenta’s guilty, madly hypothesizing over what she was doing in the hospital, when she’s literally standing right there.” Lita points her thumb at the corner of the room where Argenta is standing. “I know Percy probably hasn’t talked to that many women, but c’mon Vesti, you could just ask her!” “Oh, uh... right.” Vesti mumbles. “Thanks, Lita.” Percy says, “Wait, hold on... What were you trying to imply about me with that comme-” “Hey Argenta!” Vesti shouts, ignoring Percy. Argenta, who didn’t seem to be paying much attention, quickly looks over to Vesti and says, “H- Huh? Oh, yeah, what?” Vesti replies, “I’d like to hear it from you. What were you doing today from 12:25 to around 12:35? ...I know there’s no way you did it, but judging by the time of death, it does seem like the only possibility.” “Oh, okay,” Argenta says, looking away thoughtfully. “...Just give me a minute.” Percy sighs in annoyance and rubs his forehead. “This is a complete waste of time. She’s just going to try to lie her way out of suspicion... But fine, if you all feel like this will be worthwhile, then go ahead.” Percy takes out his 3DS again and starts playing it. “...Just leave me out of it.” Aura remarks, “So you won’t be interfering? Good, perhaps some actual progress can now be made in this inquiry.” “Okay...” Argenta says, “I think I remember everything now... Here’s what happened.” Argument: Argenta’s ExplanationArgenta: Well, I was SUPPOSED to refill the IV Bag at 12:00... Argenta: ...but, well, I sorta... completely forgot. Argenta: Thankfully, I remembered my mistake after I left... Argenta: ...and that’s why I went back to Cammy’s room at around 12:25. Argenta: Then, I refilled the bag just before it ran out! Argenta: That’s why the time of death got thrown off. Argenta: ...I’m sorry for lying, but I didn’t want people to find out that I messed up. Argenta: So I gave you the right time of death, but lied about the amount that had leaked out. Argenta: I... I didn’t kill anyone! (Hmm... If she’s telling the truth, I think that actually explains all the evidence Percy was using to blame Argenta...)Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242Also, I need a song for the next update, but I sorta forgot to do it lol. Expect a hiatus, I guess. Hopefully it’ll be a short one.
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Post by Planetbox on Jan 12, 2018 19:25:39 GMT -5
I’M BACK Present security footage at statement 4. She returned at 12:25, not 12:15. OOPS THAT WAS WRITTEN BEFORE I FINISHED THE TIMELINE Don't tell anybody...Ah, did think it might just be a simple mistake like that XD Alright then, I guess first I have a question. How much fluid had actually drained from the bag? I think I've started to lose track of what's going on with it, but, I get the impression it's meant to be the case that it's missing 30 minutes of fluid. If that's the case, then a 12:25 refill is a contradiction, as that would mean she died at 12:55. Or, at least, the needle would have been knocked loose then. Not gonna lie, every time I tried to think about the exact math behind this part, it just made my head hurt. That's why I tried to leave the exact amount of fluid that was missing ambiguous. Basically, the point is that if Argenta filled the IV bag at 12:00 or whenever she first visited the hospital room, the time of death would have been sometime during her second visit. But Argenta's saying she actually refilled it early into the second visit, which would place the time of death where it originally was. Basically, there's not supposed to be an issue there even if there might be. Argenta sorta forgot to refill the IV bag? I call her out on her lie! Sammy's Phone is the only evidence which could tells us what happened in there. It's possible that Argenta spilled the IV liquid at 12:04 and some of the liquid must have gotten onto Sammy's phone causing it to freeze at 12:04. Which means that Agrenta's second visit was to puts the IV liquid into the IV bag, to make up for the amount of IV liquid she spilled... Eureka! This brings to light the truth about the time of death... The actual time of death occurred... RIGHT after Argenta's second visit and BEFORE Dustin's discovery! Press statement 2 and ask about her earlier visit with Sammy. Then present a bouquet of roses that I kept prepared for just such an occasion. Edit: Also was that really the answer? Felt I was super stretching there. {Pierre wrote: Edit: Also was that really the answer? Felt I was super stretching there.} Real talk: there was actually no answer. No matter what you guys did it would have led to this testimony after two posts. {Planetbox wrote: Real talk: there was actually no answer. No matter what you guys did it would have led to this testimony after two posts.} [an image of a midly annoyed angry Kristoph Gavin] ...Ahem. To add on to Hanzo's post, call Sammy here to give us his phone and check whether there are traces of IV liquid on it or not. That should prove it beyond a doubt. Also press Argenta's last statement. You've never killed anyone before? That's an impressive record for a surgeon! Compliment her on that and then bow down and kiss her hand like a gentleman would. {Planetbox wrote: Also Dustin’s fingerprints are definitely on the screwdrivers in the basket. I don’t really feel like writing a scene where someone leaves to get a screwdriver, brings it back, then tests it to figure that out, though. If not having that scene bothers you too much you could write it I guess idk} Ok {toomuchbathroomcorn2009 wrote: :holdit: "How do we know for sure there are fingerprints on the screwdrivers?!", Vesti shouts before a loud voice chimes in. "AHAAAHAJAAAHAAH I'M HERE" "Huh?" Everyone looks to see the most beautiful person ever imagined ever. Suddenly Vesti doesn't have the hots for Argenta anymore "Yes, sir!" They salute. "I'm Shutter N. Corn, and I'm a forensics expert! Lemme check this screwdriver for fingerprints!" They take out a bottle of cocaine and check the screwdrivers individually. "Yep! They're there! Bye!" And suddenly this beautiful person disappears forever and Vesti totally comes back to Argenta again} {OshaliteX2 wrote: @ Southern Corn: Well I would except Planetbox over here (I think that's what he's called over there?) won't tell anyone what your forum is. He messed up evidence posts here twice and I think I got glimpses of it when trying to check through the files, but then he fixed it by next time I came around. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE, PLANET??????} Hark! We have successfully gained contact with the gods of yore on the other forum! Sing them our praises, for we are truly blessed! Oh and here's the link to our forum btw lol if PB removes it then it's irrevocable proof that he's actually a tyrant trying to cease communication between us and you should rebel against him Edit: PB where'd you go man Hey, I didn't remove anything. It just didn't transfer over through copy and paste and I was too lazy to reformat it. Ah, yeah, I'd forgotten what the original theory was. Killed at 12:45, then the killer hid while Dustin came in, something like that? Also if you really wanna find either forum you can just google it pretty easily.I don't have anything to add to what everyone else has said, then. I mean I guess but that'd take the fun out of it! Besides, why not go all out with the forbidden lov-friendship angle?Vesti tries to pull out some flowers for Argenta, but he misses and pulls out his taser. Then Shutter N. Corn comes back, steals it, and shoots Vesti in the face with it. Then he’s arrested for being a butt and dies in prison ripPress: Statement 2“You ‘forgot?’” Vesti says, “But didn’t you refill her IV at the same time everyday?” “W- Well, yeah...” Argenta replies. “B- But, uh... I have to perform a bunch of check-ups too, so refilling the IV just sorta slipped my mind.” Vesti asks, “But don’t you do those check-ups everyday too?” Argenta says, “W- Well, Sammy was there too, so I had to keep an eye on him, y’know? Make sure he didn’t... I dunno, steal anything?” Vesti continues, “...But didn’t Sammy visit everyday too?” Argenta mumbles, “Uhh... Well...” Before she can say anything else, Lita interjects, “Vesti! Stop harassing the witness!” Vesti shouts, “What?! I’m not harassing anybody!” Lita wags her finger disapprovingly and says, “Well by denying your harassment of the witness, you’re harassing me! Whaddaya think of that?” Vesti mumbles, “I think this conversation is over now...” Present: Sammy’s Phone: Statement 2Vesti sighs, shaking his head, and says, “Argenta, why’d you have to lie to me?” “Wh- What? I d- didn’t lie about a- anything!” Argenta replies unconvincingly. “Really? Because I know someone with testimony and evidence that would prove otherwise. That person is Sammy Tose, and the evidence is his cell phone!” Without looking away from his game, Percy points at Vesti and says, “I told you.” Ignoring him, Argenta says, “His cell phone? ...Wh- What does that have to do with... a- anything...” “It’s not about the cell phone; it’s about what happened to it.” Vesti explains, “Sammy told us that something was spilled on it, which caused it to short circuit. The phone’s screen froze, and leaving the clock at ‘12:04 PM.’ That means something was spilled on Sammy’s phone while you were in Cammy’s hospital room with him... and the only thing in that room that could have caused a phone to short-circuit was the IV liquid. Argenta, that proves that you must have been doing something with the IV fluid at 12, so there’s no way you simply forgot about it!” Argenta’s glances all around the room, looking panicked. “O- Oh, well... M- Maybe I did spill the IV fluid when I was trying to refill it. What difference does it make?” Percy, apparently done with being left out, adds, “It means that if you filled the IV bag at 12:00 like you said you did, then the fluid that drained out of it corroborates a time of death during the period in which you were at the crime scene... and it means that you lied during the investigation to hide this fact... I don’t have to spell it out any further than that, do I?” Argenta shouts, “N- No! Th- That’s wrong! I- I...” Vesti shouts, “Argenta, I truly believe that you’re not the killer! I believe there’s some innocent reason that you’re lying about all this. But I need you to explain yourself!” Argenta looks away and mumbles, “I- I didn’t kill anyone... Y- You’ve gotta believe me!” “Why should we believe you when you’ve been lying all day?” Percy says, “This is just pathetic... Own up to your crimes already!” Vesti adds, “Argenta, whatever this is, it’s not worth getting arrested over!” Argenta trembles as she looks at the floor, eyes tightly shut. She mumbles, “I... I’m s- sorry, Vesti... I c- can’t.” Vesti shakes his head and says, “Well, I won’t stand for that!” Present: Police BadgeThe world around Vesti fades away, replaced with a light orange void. The only thing he can see is Argenta twitching uncomfortably, with two police badges floating in front of her. He’s the only one who can see any of that though; don’t believe the lies of my younger self. Vesti shouts, “Alright... Argenta, you’re hiding something, and I intend to figure out what. So, I have a few questions for you...” Argenta says, “Qu- Questions?” “Don’t worry, they’re simple questions,” Vesti mumbles, “...but perhaps their answers can lead to a complex truth... Now, let’s begin!” Interrogation: Argenta’s SecretQuestions: Why’d you spill the IV fluid? When did you change Cammy’s IVs? How long was the IV fluid really leaking? What was Sammy Tose up to? Wanna go out for some coffee after this? Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Jan 14, 2018 22:15:07 GMT -5
I. SHIP. IT.
also I think I super zoned out last update, so much I didn't know I was supposed to reply to it
Vesti: Ask what ol' Ka-Zammy Tose was doing and then ACTIVATE MAXIMUM SUAVE FLIRT MODE.
@ Southern Corn: Ooh, I do enjoy a good praise-song! I kindly thank thee, being of ye outer realms. But Planet says he was "too lazy" to format your link. Suspicious. How should I rebel?
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Post by Planetbox on Jan 15, 2018 16:28:43 GMT -5
SC bro I have no idea what you could possibly be talking about I'll leave the obvious question for the obvious questioner. So, What was Sammy Tose up to? COFFEE! COFFEE! IT'S BEEN PROMISED FOR SO LONG! JUST TO SET HER AT EASE! IF THERE'S A FUTURE FOR COFFEE IT MEANS SHE'S NOT GETTING ARRESTED IN THE FUTURE! Ask Agrenta how long was the IV drip really leaking. Rip Shitter Shutter N. Corn. Sorry for ruining your moment there Pierre Let's at least try to calm her down. Ask about what Sammy was up to. Edit: Shoot darn it Kami stop stealing all the good ones Ask her why she spilt the IV fluid. Also this is hilarious {Planetbox said: “Don’t worry, they’re simple questions,” Vesti mumbles, “...but perhaps their answers can lead to a complex truth... Now, let’s begin!”} COMPLEX TRUTH I'm sorry but I just had to. Somehow that line has become even dumber after finishing that game. What was Sammy Tose up to?Hoping to calm Argenta down first with a less accusatory question, Vesti asks, “Argenta... While you were in Cammy’s room together, what was Sammy Tose up to? Did he do anything suspicious?” Argenta seems relieved that the question isn’t about her. She explains, “Hmm... Well... He didn’t really do anything, I guess. He tried to stay out of the way... and, uh... just sat on that stool and read some book to Cammy, like usual.” “Interesting...” Vesti says, “But you forgot one detail... Which book was it?” “What? How should I know?” Argenta replies, “I wasn’t listening!” She looks up thoughtfully for a bit and adds, “Though, thinking back... It sounded like some kinda mystery... thriller... thing. But, uh... honestly, I don’t think the novel’s genre is really, well... important.” (Perhaps not... but what about everything else she said? Does that hold up?)Will you present evidence?How long was the IV fluid really leaking?“Argenta, tell me the truth,” Vesti says. “How much IV fluid really leaked from the bag?” “Uhh...” Argenta looks around indecisively. “About... forty-five minutes worth...” “Oh, come on,” Vesti says, “We both know that’s not true. You admitted earlier that you were lying!” “W- Well... Well...” Argenta says. “M- Maybe I did the math wrong, and it was actually forty-five! O- Or maybe I didn’t measure at the meniscus! Or maybe I was actually lying about lying! Y- Yeah, it was a double lie! That’s it!” (Obviously all these possibilities are highly unlikely. Perhaps she’ll admit to lying if I present some irrefutable evidence!)Will you present evidence?Why’d you spill the IV fluid?Vesti asks, “So, why’d you spill that IV fluid, anyway?” “Well, I mean... I didn’t have a reason to!” Argenta explains, “I had just switched the two IV bags and I was taking the old one out when I tr- tripped and... basically slammed it onto Sammy as he was walking out the door.” “...And that’s when Sammy’s phone short-circuited...” Vesti mumbles. “Yeah...” Argenta replies, “But it wasn’t intentional or anything!” (Hmm... That seems reasonable... but is there any evidence that refutes it?)Will you present evidence?Wanna go out for some coffee after this?“Argenta, I know this is a weird time for this, but...” Vesti hesitantly says. “...You wanna go out and get some coffee some time after this?” “Wh- What?” Argenta responds, surprised. From far off in the distance, Vesti swears he hears Percy make a rude comment at his expense, but he ignores him. Eventually, Argenta says, “W- Well... I’d like to, but it s- seems like this whole thing is gonna end poorly for me... Why are you even asking that now?” Vesti smiles and explains, “Because... You gotta focus on that coffee! I’m gonna make sure you don’t go to jail so we can get that coffee, but you’ve gotta help out too! You’ve gotta tell me the truth!” Argenta sighs and looks away again. “I- It’s not that simple, Vesti... I’m sorry...” Questions: When did you change Cammy’s IVs? Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Jan 17, 2018 12:23:28 GMT -5
You have a point, Hanzo, but just wait a little bit on that one. It’s cold here Hrm I feel the problem might be in the timing. Sammy's phone locked up at 12:04pm but they only arrived at 12pm and Argenta says he was leaving when it happened. That's a REALLY short amount of time to spend with your wife, especially if you are reading a book to her. If that sits well then present the phone at that point. Otherwise ask about the time she changed the IV, that could reveal some inconsistencies with the time on the phone as well. That makes sense to me. So, nothing to really add. If Sammy was sitting on the wooden stool, the one that he uses when visiting the victim... Then why was the wooden stool knocked over? Something must have happened for the stool to get knocked over. I think everyone else has pointed out the inconsistencies so far so I'm just gonna sit back and shitpost @pb Don't worry yerself, laddie. It's nawt a reference that yew'd be gettin', eh? @oshalite AAAAAAAAAHHHHHH {Code: forums.cout-records.net/index.php}If he deletes this then you can rebel eh? Present: Sammy’s Phone“That seems a little strange...” Vesti says, “Sammy came all the way there to read a book to his wife... and then left after only four minutes?” “Oh, uhh...” Argenta rubs the back of her head in confusion. “...I must have misremembered that. He didn’t actually leave for another four or five minutes. ...I actually don’t know why he came over to where I was. Maybe the heart monitor was in his way or something?” “Perhaps...” Vesti replies, “...But driving all the way to the hospital only to leave after ten minutes is still pretty weird.” “Yeah, I did think it was a little strange that he was leaving that early...” Argenta says, “But he usually only stuck around for twenty of thirty minutes anyway. Apparently, since he always came during his lunch break, he didn’t have much time before he had to head back to work.” Vesti mumbles, “That still seems a little odd, but I suppose it makes sense...” (Either way, it doesn’t look like she’s lying here. I don’t think what Sammy was up to has anything to do with what Argenta’s hiding... She doesn’t have any reason to protect him, anyway.){{Yeah sorry guys that was mostly me being dumb. Sammy and Argenta left the room at the same time.}} When did you change Cammy’s IV’s?Vesti asks, “So, when did you change Cammy’s IVs?” Argenta says, “Uhh... I had to come back to change it because I forgo-” “Nope,” Vesti replies. “I already proved you didn’t ‘forget’ with Sammy’s phone, remember? Unless you want us to go run tests to prove it definitively?” “No, I’m sorry...” Argenta replies, “What a- actually happened was... When I went to switch the IV bags, I b- broke both of them... S- So I had to quickly leave and get another bag... but I still refilled it at around the same time!” Vesti glares skeptically at Argenta. “Hmmmm...” (I suppose that’s possible... unless the evidence disagrees with it?)Will you present evidence?Questions: No more questions!Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Jan 19, 2018 15:23:14 GMT -5
Here’s a hint, SC. Don’t think too hard about the IV fluid, because I didn’t. They keep cancelling school halp AAAAH SURPRISE UPDATE Uh...sorry if I'm getting this wrong (I was just about to go to sleep before I saw this) but the answer should be in the Security Footage, right? Because...Argenta wasn't seen leaving without Sammy till then? I think? Idk man, I just want to get this entire business with the footage and IV fluid outta the way because this is starting to make my head hurt. If I'm understanding right, Argenta is saying she quickly left the room while Sammy was in there? But the security footage disagrees with that. Er, so yeah, what SC said. Better than my argument which was to present the surgical scrubs and say "You are a doctor! How could you make such silly mistakes while doing a routine check up. TWICE! There must have been something suspicious going on at the same time! I bet Sammy was murdering his wife right?!" Yeah don't say that Present: Security Footage“Wait, that doesn’t make any sense!” Vesti shouts, “If you had left and come back with another IV bag, the cameras would’ve seen you. But the cameras don’t show you leaving until Sammy Tose did, long after the spill. Not only that, but when you came back at 12:25, you weren’t carrying anything!” “Oh... right,” Argenta mumbles, “Well, uh... maybe I didn’t show up on the footage cause I climbed down behind the hospital sign!” “Oh, don’t be ridiculous!” Vesti says, “Come on, Argenta. You might as well just admit it. All the evidence points to you refilling that IV bag around 12:00, when you were supposed to!” Argenta shouts, “A- Alright, alright. Fine, I refilled Cammy’s IV bag at 12:00. Everything went smoothly! Okay?” “Thank you,” Vesti replies. (That’s only half of the puzzle, though... I still need to confirm one more detail with her.)CLUE: Argenta filled the IV bag at 12:00 PMQuestions:No more questions!Clues:Argenta filled the IV bag at 12:00 PM. Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by Planetbox on Jan 20, 2018 16:31:25 GMT -5
TBH Pierre I’m not sure what’s got you so confused. The point of this first part though wasn’t to get some big reveal, it was basically to get her to admit to stuff we already know. Hopefully the next one will be less confusing Well, if she refilled the bag at 12:00 we go back to our original problem. How much fluid drained from the bag? If it's around 30 minutes as everyone keeps saying, then that puts Argenta at the scene when Cammy died. Is that an objection to point out here? The IV Bag? If it's not that, then I don't know. IV bag would make sense to me. Now we know that it aligns with the 30-minute mark then we can prove she is lying about the 45 minutes. Though my gut...oh snap. Present the watch! If everything went smoothly with the IV change then how did Sammy's watch get splashed with IV fluid? You guys have the right idea, but you can't prove the amount of IV liquid that drained using the IV bag because Vesti can't read it himself. If you're having problems, go back and check exactly what she said how much drained from the bag. Also when she said 'everything went smoothly,' she just meant that she managed to fill it when she was supposed to. She just switched the almost empty bag with a full one and then dropped the old one on Sammy. There's never gonna be in contradictions in the pre-clue text, by the way. Vesti can't, but Ann can, right? She said it drained 30 minutes, which is what lead to the current autopsy report. I don't get it, her initial testimony was a lie and now she's admitted that it was changed at 12. That matches up with the time of death when the needle was knocked loose when about 30-35 minutes of fluid were missing. There's no inconsistencies? Present it at her statement saying that 45 minutes of fluid were gone? I mean it's an obvious lie but I'm feeling perplexed here. Uh huh, that seems to be the conclusion I'm getting from the evidence anyway. I really hope this is going to be the last IV fluid/footage related contradiction though. Present: Cammy’s Autopsy Report“There’s no way you could have made a mistake about the IV fluid,” Vesti says. “After all, there was another person who ran calculations on the IV bag: Ann Istheesa, the coroner. And she reported that about thirty to thirty-five minutes of fluid had leaked from that bag. That’s the same answer that you got through your calculations! While it’s certainly possible that one of you could have been mistaken, there’s no way you both were!” “O- Okay, fine!” Argenta shouts, “I- It was about thirty-five minutes worth, and I lied about it! There were no d- double lies or mistakes or improper measurement procedures involved! Th- That’s all!” (Good... Now that she’s actually admitting stuff, I’ll be able to make some progress and learn some new information...)CLUE: About 30-35 minutes of IV liquid drained from the bag.{{I’m gonna go ahead and combine the two clues since we all know that’s what you have to do}} Connect Clues 1 and 2“Argenta, you’ve already admitted the truth about when you filled the IV bag and how long it had been draining...” Vesti says, “Now will you admit that the IV was detached while you were in the room?” “Huh?” Argenta shouts, “Wh- Why do I have to admit that?!” Vesti explains, “Percy’s already explained this whole thing several times! It only takes a little math to determine that the IV liquid stopped draining while you were alone in Cammy’s hospital room with her. Percy says that this is because you killed her, but I don’t think things are that simple! I need you to explain what really happened in that room!” “F- Fine...” Argenta mumbles, “C- Cammy’s IV bag did get detached while I was in the room with her... b- but I didn’t kill her!” “I’m sure you didn’t...” Vesti says, “But you must have done something in that room... and I intend to find out what!” (Now I should ask her about what happened while she was alone in that room with Cammy... Hopefully I’ll be able to put together the truth based on her responses.)Interrogation: Argenta’s Secret (Part 2)Questions:Did anyone else ever enter the room? What substances was Cammy administered? Was anything out of place in the room? What was Cammy’s status when you left? What was the purpose of Cammy’s IV? Prestige: 95% Evidence: kun.boards.net/post/12242
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Post by OshaliteX2 on Jan 23, 2018 21:45:17 GMT -5
Whoa hey guys what'd I miss? Ask the first one.
Also @ Southern Corn: I don't think that link's working. Is Planet sabotaging you?
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